On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:16 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>  it was playing the rhythms perfectly.

One thing you can count on:  Finale does the math.

>  
> I agree completely as a fellow professional pianist (and musician in  
> general) that I'm appalled that anyone would rely on MIDI to learn something; 
>  
> we're really and truly lost if that's the case.  I forbade my students when  
> I 
> was a university professor from listening to recordings while they were  
> learning pieces lest they just come in and parrot these versions back to me, 
> and  I remember similar sentiments expressed to me by my own teachers, 
> including the  late Marilyn Neeley.  I told her once I had been listening to  
> a 
> certain recording of the Grieg Concerto, and she quickly snapped at  me that 
> she didn't need a "Philippe Entremont clone" coming into the  lesson.  If 
> only more people thought this way and listened to multiple  recordings AFTER 
> learning a piece and not during the formative process...oh  well, that's 
> wishful thinking in a YouTube world, isn't it?

This conclusion assumes that notation is music, and that it includes enough to 
guide an informed performance.  This is no more (or less) true than the idea 
that the script of a play contains the play.  The only danger in using existing 
models (recordings) to inform the learning process is if the student only uses 
one recording, or if the student is an extraordinarily gifted mimic.  The idea 
of learning music without using examples of other people's performances is as 
small minded and intellectually flawed as mindless mimicry would be.  Where, 
indeed, do we imagine interpretive ideas come from?  Musical personalities 
arise as an accrual of our listening experiences.  How can anyone suggest not 
listening as a protection from external influence when those influences are the 
very building blocks of our own personalities?  There must be a balance here, 
and a history of listening precedes the formation of any coherent performance.

Chuck

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