Okay, jef – here it is: from Ein Glück ohne Ruh'. Die Briefe Gustav Mahlers an Alma. “A Happiness Without Peace: the Letters from Gustav Mahler to Alma” (1995) Edited with commentary by Henry-Louis de La Grange and Günther Weiß, Berlin
Writing of the 5th symphony, Mahler arrived in Cologne on October 13 1904, for his first rehearsal the next day: "Everything went acceptably. The Scherzo is a terrible movement! It will have a long life of ordeal! Conductors for 50 years will take it too quickly and make a mess of it, the audiences - - o heaven! What should they make of this chaos, where a new world is born in one moment only to be destroyed in the next - - - of these primeval sounds, this seething, screaming, shattering sea, these dancing stars, these gasping, shining, sparkling waves?! How can a flock of sheep react to an 'Ethereal feast of song' other than bleat!? […] O, I wish I could perform my symphony 50 years after my death!" I’ve read of this quote being attributed to Mahler AFTER the premiere, and referencing the reaction. Which – if true, would mean he only repeated what he had written to Alma five days before the premiere - FWIW, he composed it 1901-2, but the world premiere wasn’t until October 18, 1904 – in Cologne. Hope that helps. Les Marsden (209) 966-6988 (H) (559) 708-6027 (Limited-reception cell) 7145 Snyder Creek Road Mariposa, CA 95338-9641 Chairman, Mariposa County Planning Commission President, Mariposa County Arts Council, Incorporated Board Director, Economic Development Corporation of Mariposa County Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra ♫ ♪ ♫ Marsden Marx Pages (former career ended by disability): http://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og Mariposa Symphony Orchestra: http://tinyurl.com/ayohc8v From: Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Finale] [OT] mahler quote - writing for future orchestras Yeah, jef – it was something along the lines (apropos his 5th symphony) that he was disappointed that it wasn’t understood when it was premiered and that he would love to be able to see its reception 50 years after his death. I’ll take a look when I’m back down in my library; I have a pretty good idea in which book that quote is cited. Les Marsden (209) 966-6988 (H) (559) 708-6027 (Limited-reception cell) 7145 Snyder Creek Road Mariposa, CA 95338-9641 Chairman, Mariposa County Planning Commission President, Mariposa County Arts Council, Incorporated Board Director, Economic Development Corporation of Mariposa County Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra ♫ ♪ ♫ Marsden Marx Pages (former career ended by disability): http://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og Mariposa Symphony Orchestra: http://tinyurl.com/ayohc8v From: SN jef chippewa Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Finale] [OT] mahler quote - writing for future orchestras if there are any mahler freaks out there, do you know of this quote? i seem to remember reading somewhere that he said -- perhaps in response to criticisms of his "inaccessible" music -- that he was writing for the orchestras of the future / for the mucisians 50 years from now. or something to that effect. anyone? if you have it, i could really use the full reference (publication, page nuymber etc.). or even a convincing paraphrase... thanks, jef _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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