Anyone know whether the bug on accidentals tied into the next measure has been
fixed in the 2014 version? In all past versions, if you scan in a score and
have a note that is natural in the key signature but has an accidental in front
of it in this instance and the note is tied to another note in the next
measure, you invariably find that the note in the next measure is natural and
does not have the accidental applied. It looks normal, but if you delete the
tie you see that the accidental does not appear. On playback you get an half
step rise or fall in pitch as you cross the end of measure line. Very
frustrating. After scanning in a score you have to check every tied accidental
and make sure it is done right. For musical typesetting application it does
not matter because it looks right. It is only a problem for playback. The
same problem happens if the note is sharp or flat in the key signature and a
natural sign is applied in front of the note which is tied into the next
measure. The note in the nest measure is not natural, but sharp or flat as in
the key signature. I find this a very annoying and time wasting bug in the
program.
Clif Ashcraft
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> 5. Re: Playing back a score (John Blane)
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> From: Craig Parmerlee <[email protected]>
> Date: November 11, 2013 2:36:10 PM EST
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] random thoughts on 2014
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> Yes, this is exactly what happens to me. I find myself sight-reading live
> performances a more often than I would like. I guess I am good enough at it
> that people are willing to call me in an emergency. Every time I trip up on
> one of these redundant accidentals non-parenthesized, I cuss the mother of
> whoever did that notation.
>
> Either put the parentheses in there or leave out the cautionaries altogether.
> That's why we have key signatures.
>
> The only exception I would make is for music targeted at students in the
> 8th-20th week of playing an instrument. Before that time, they don't see
> accidentals. After that time, they should be reading accidentals properly.
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> On 11/10/2013 4:45 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote:
>> Steve P,
>>
>> I agree entirely. On seeing a cautionary accidental without parenthesis I
>> would, for a split second, think I must have missed a natural earlier.
>> That split second is enough to disturb my sight reading.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Lawrence
>>
>>
>> On 10 November 2013 19:43, Steve Parker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> another differing opinion..
>>> I sightread a lot for a living, but I don't like cautionarys without
>>> parentheses - I find they make my eyes skip back to the key sig. or
>>> original accidental to check.
>>> In keyless music, parantheses are usually redundant.
>>>
>>> Steve P.
>>>
>>> On 10 Nov 2013, at 20:27, Christopher Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you will permit a somewhat differing opinion, I think there are
>>> places where cautionaries are necessary, even when there isn't a key
>>> change, and I have figured out after many years that NON-parenthesised ones
>>> actually are easier to read.
>>>> I know that parentheses make logical sense, that a parenthesised
>>> accidental is kind of like saying, "I KNOW you know this, but here's a
>>> reminder" to differentiate it from one that is absolutely necessary. But
>>> from a distance, parentheses around an accidental makes all three (sharp,
>>> flat, and natural) into the same outline, so you have to read more closely
>>> to see which accidental it actually is. Already, sharps and naturals are
>>> easy to confuse with each other; the parentheses make it worse. I keep
>>> getting caught by these on the gigs I do where the Finale user is less than
>>> professional. And Sibelius seems to have this redundant accidental default
>>> that puts in accidentals on the SECOND of two tied notes!
>>>> Christopher
>>>>
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> From: Barbara Levy <[email protected]>
> Date: November 11, 2013 6:07:15 PM EST
> To: Finale Discussion <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Finale] Playing back a score
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> Hello, all............
>
> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the piano
> part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can hear
> the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found to do
> that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this is
> rather tedious.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL
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> From: <[email protected]>
> Date: November 11, 2013 6:14:45 PM EST
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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> In the Chord Tool, Chord Menu, deselect Enable Chord Playback. That will
> disable ALL chords through the entire document. If you only want the piano
> chords disactivated, it depends on the version of Finale you have, but it is
> either the Instrument List or the Score Manager that you need, click on the
> arrow next to the staff to open a list of things to be enabled or disabled.
>
> Christopher
>
> On 11/11/13, Barbara Levy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello, all............
>>
>> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the piano
>> part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can hear
>> the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found to do
>> that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this is
>> rather tedious.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL
>>
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> From: dershem <[email protected]>
> Date: November 11, 2013 6:17:17 PM EST
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score
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> On 11/11/2013 3:07 PM, Barbara Levy wrote:
>> Hello, all............
>>
>> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the piano
>> part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can hear
>> the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found to do
>> that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this is
>> rather tedious.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL
>
> Under the Chord menu, uncheck "Enable chord playback".
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> From: John Blane <[email protected]>
> Date: November 11, 2013 8:19:28 PM EST
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> Yes, but I can't go this year.
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> JB
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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> In the Chord Tool, Chord Menu, deselect Enable Chord Playback. That will
>> disable ALL chords through the entire document. If you only want the piano
>> chords disactivated, it depends on the version of Finale you have, but it is
>> either the Instrument List or the Score Manager that you need, click on the
>> arrow next to the staff to open a list of things to be enabled or disabled.
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>> On 11/11/13, Barbara Levy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello, all............
>>>
>>> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the piano
>>> part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can hear
>>> the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found to do
>>> that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this is
>>> rather tedious.
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
>>> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL
>>>
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> From: John Blane <[email protected]>
> Date: November 11, 2013 8:22:21 PM EST
> To: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score
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> Oops sorry everyone!
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> JB
> Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker
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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:19 PM, John Blane <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Yes, but I can't go this year.
>>
>> JB
>> Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In the Chord Tool, Chord Menu, deselect Enable Chord Playback. That will
>>> disable ALL chords through the entire document. If you only want the piano
>>> chords disactivated, it depends on the version of Finale you have, but it
>>> is either the Instrument List or the Score Manager that you need, click on
>>> the arrow next to the staff to open a list of things to be enabled or
>>> disabled.
>>>
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>> On 11/11/13, Barbara Levy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hello, all............
>>>>
>>>> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the piano
>>>> part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can hear
>>>> the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found to do
>>>> that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this is
>>>> rather tedious.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL
>>>>
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