Hi Christopher, I know that about not needing to attach chords to notes anymore but the original question involved music which had notes and chords which is why I did what I did.
Thanks for the clarification about specifying a minor third instead of a diatonic third. Choosing a diatonic third only works some of the time -- that was my mistake. Yes, it needs to be a minor third. But I was talking about the notes, not about the chords when I discussed transposing. Your method is much simpler than mine, although your method presupposes that he's entering the music from alto sax music. I gathered that he was entering from a concert pitch fake book and then transposing the music for alto sax, in which case he'd need to transpose everything for alto sax and then transpose just the chords up a minor third. Just shows there are several ways to accomplish the same thing in Finale -- part of its charm and part of its curse. :-) Thanks, David On 3/14/2017 8:46 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: > Hi David and Graeme, > > David, you don’t have to attach chords to entries any more. So your > method of entering 4 quarters and then trying things didn’t need the > 4 quarters. This is a blessing and a curse, in that you don’t have to > enter notes (or rests in my former case, so they don’t play back) but > if you have rhythmic notation you DO need to enter notes (to turn > into stemmed slashes) and that ends up spacing those surrounding > measures differently. It also makes it next to impossible to resize > chord symbols. > > Also, don’t transpose chords by a DIATONIC third! Make it a minor > third! That’s very important. It’s only coincidence that it worked > with a C note; it won’t work with an E, for example. > > Graeme, the way I would do that particular task is transpose the > chords instead, which is only one operation. This can be found in > Utilities menu>Change>Chords… Transpose. Make sure you transpose the > chords up a minor third if the notes are in in alto key. > > Christopher > > >> On Mar 14, 2017, at 7:31 AM, David H. Bailey >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 3/14/2017 5:00 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote: >>> Well, I have a question about chords and melodies. I play alto >>> sax and want to print my sax lines out transposed so I can read >>> them. But if I put chord symbols over the bar, Finale likes to >>> transpose the chords too! I get around this by putting a second >>> stave, for piano, and put the chord symbols in that staff. So >>> that’s ok as a work around and I just print the sax part, without >>> the piano chords. Do you get what I mean? Is there a better way >>> around this? What do other sax players do? >>> >> >> Most of the time people playing transposing instruments would >> rather see the chords in the correct key for their instrument. So >> a C7 chord would show as an A7 chord for alto sax so that an alto >> player looking to improvise only needs to think about the A7 chord >> and doesn't have to think "C7 should be A7 on my instrument." But >> I can understand you wanting to do as you ask if you want a pianist >> or guitarist to simply play an accompaniment without doing anything >> with the melody. Of course you can accomplish that by creating >> your leadsheet for alto sax, printing the alto sax part, then >> printing the same thing in concert pitch and then your accompanist >> will see the proper melody and chord agreement and you'll have the >> alto sax part to play from. >> >> One way to accomplish what you want: 0) if playback is important, >> set the instrument as you want either in the setup wizard or change >> the instrument using the Score Manager. 1) Document Menu - Display >> In Concert Pitch 2) enter the notes and chords in concert pitch 3) >> select the music, use the Utilities/Transpose to transpose down a >> diatonic third 4) Use the key signature tool to change the key to >> what you want to reflect the key you want the music in. You should >> end up with what you want -- the notes transposed for alto sax and >> the chords in the original concert pitch. >> >> I just did that experiment creating a measure in concert pitch, 4 >> quarter notes C with a C7 chord above the first note. >> >> I ended up with the notes in the key of A but with the chord still >> showing as C7. >> >> I think that's essentially what you want. >> >> >> -- ***** David H. Bailey [email protected] >> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> _______________________________________________ Finale mailing >> list [email protected] >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list > [email protected] https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > [email protected] > -- David H. Bailey [email protected] http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: [email protected]
