I sang with the New York Choral Society when we were the backup chorus for
his Carnegie Hall concerts.

Needless to say, we prepared like crazy for our first rehearsal with him.
Somehow, our first song didn't go well, and we were looking around,
wondering what was happening. Bob deCormier, our conductor, stopped the
rehearsal, and Pete Seeger told us he'd been working really hard on the
Clearwater Festival, he hadn't had a chance to practice as much as he
needed to be as prepared as we wanted to be, and he wanted to  apologize to
each and every one of us.

We just gave him a standing ovation. Not a guy who took himself too
seriously.

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   1. Interesting article on battle over copyright for "We Shall
      Overcome" (Raymond Horton)
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      Shall     Overcome" (Christopher Smith)
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      Shall Overcome" (Chuck Israels)
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      Shall Overcome" (David H. Bailey)


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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:19:15 -0400
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Interesting article on battle over copyright for "We Shall Overcome"

https://www.yahoo.com/music/effort-free-civil-rights-anthem-120722464.html

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:31:02 -0400
From: Christopher Smith <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Interesting article on battle over copyright for
        "We Shall       Overcome"
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Okay, but apparently if you use the lyric ?we will overcome? and ?down in
my heart? instead of ?we shall? and ?deep in my heart?, you are good to go;
this version is in the public domain still.

Whew.

Christopher


> On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:19 PM, Raymond Horton <horton.raym...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> Interesting article on battle over copyright for "We Shall Overcome"
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/music/effort-free-civil-rights-anthem-120722464.html
>
> Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:01:44 -0700
From: Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Interesting article on battle over copyright for
        "We Shall Overcome"
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Interesting ? and the description of Pete Seeger as a humble, generous, and
well-meaning person certainly parallels my experience with him.  I feel as
if I practically grew up with him - singing and playing the guitar on stage
with him at 10 or 12 years old and having him visit our home many times in
the ensuing years.  I can?t imagine Pete himself making an issue over
ownership of what seems to me to be something that clearly belongs in the
public domain. I often find the business of music disturbingly venal as
soon as non-musicians get involved.

Chuck


> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Raymond Horton <horton.raym...@gmail.com>
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> Interesting article on battle over copyright for "We Shall Overcome"
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/music/effort-free-civil-rights-anthem-120722464.html
>
> Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 06:12:17 -0400
From: "David H. Bailey" <dhbaile...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Interesting article on battle over copyright for
        "We Shall Overcome"
To: finale@shsu.edu, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
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On 8/10/2017 8:01 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
> Interesting ? and the description of Pete Seeger as a humble, generous,
and well-meaning person certainly parallels my experience with him.  I feel
as if I practically grew up with him - singing and playing the guitar on
stage with him at 10 or 12 years old and having him visit our home many
times in the ensuing years.  I can?t imagine Pete himself making an issue
over ownership of what seems to me to be something that clearly belongs in
the public domain. I often find the business of music disturbingly venal as
soon as non-musicians get involved.
>

I agree with your impression of Pete Seeger -- I remember hearing or
reading (I can't remember if it was part of his between-songs patter in
a live recording or printed in an interview) him recount the tale of
copyrighting the song "Where Have All The Flowers Gone."  He had written
it and performed it and others had picked it up and performed it and
recorded it and one day his manager heard it on the radio and asked him
"Didn't you write that?"  Pete said "Yes."  The manager asked if Pete
had copyrighted it and Pete said he didn't think so.  So the manager
registered the copyright for him.  I don't think Pete was all that
interested in the business end of things.

And I agree with your final statement -- once the bean counters get hold
of things, the nice collegial feeling of the music world is ruined.


--
*****
David H. Bailey
dhbaile...@comcast.net
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com


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