I bought Dorico when it first came out and have installed every upgrade 
as it was announced, and I think it's a great piece of software but for 
my uses it has some severe limitations, many of which are my own and not 
the program's.

I'm not sure what you mean by "20th/21st century notation" since in my 
experience there is such a wide array of notational devices, many 
invented by a single composer and never moving beyond that, some of them 
graphical, some of them in my experience incomprehensible, with others 
more expansions of traditional notation, and a huge amount of it simply 
the same traditional notation from the 18th and 19th century.

Since my notational needs are pretty much 100% traditional notation I 
can't speak to the ability to use more experimental notation.  But there 
is a great forum at Steinberg.net which is free to join and that would 
be the best place to ask since there are people who are making great use 
of Dorico for completing new projects and publishing their works.

My background:  I started out doing computer music notation with 
MusicPrinterPlus version 3 for DOS and when that program no longer would 
work, I made the jump to Finale version 3.25, and have bought 
practically every annual upgrade along the way.  I bought the crossgrade 
to Sibelius for Windows version 2.11 and bought the upgrades as they 
came out but didn't really start using it for projects until version 5, 
when I finally sat down and learned Sibelius from scratch instead of 
trying to adapt my Finale work-flow to Sibelius.  Ever since then I have 
been using Sibelius as my primary notation software but have stopped 
buying upgrades since verson 7.1.3.  That is still the app I use for 
most of my notational needs.

I find there is much to like about Dorico and much which is overly fussy 
in my opinion.  I will admit that I have yet to sit down and really 
learn Dorico as I should, which is something I intend to do this fall. 
I find their use of "flows" confusing but I find their separation of the 
whole computer notation process into different "modes" to be helpful. 
They have Setup (similar to but not the same as the new score wizards in 
either Finale, Sibelius or MuseScore), Write (where the music itself is 
entered), Engrave (where how the music actually will look on the page is 
finalized), Play (self-explanatory), and Print (also self-explanatory).

Their music entry in the Write mode is very refreshing -- a person can 
simply start entering the music (pitch and rhythm) without regard for 
meter, measures, etc.  That way a person can be inspired to create a 
melodic line if so desired before worrying about meter, key, placement 
of barlines, etc.  And then a person can play around with different 
meters and the program will re-notate what has been entered.  I believe 
they call that "modeless entry."

It's what happens after that that is where I get bogged down.  At the 
bottom of the screen is a narrow bar with an up-pointing arrowhead, and 
what is displayed when that is clicked differs depending on what has 
been clicked on in the music.  It's sort of like the "Inspector" in 
Sibelius.  The confusing thing to me so far about this is that I can't 
remember what information will be shown, or what I can do with it all. 
Dorico has much which can be adjusted (like Finale) and that freedom can 
bring confusion with it until a person has learned the program through 
intense usage.  And so far there isn't a very complete user manual.  The 
user can keep that panel open but then it eats up screen real-estate so 
less of the score is shown.

Dorico can't do polymetric music where the length of the beat varies 
from staff to staff -- independent meters where the barlines don't line 
up from staff to staff is the norm.  That means that a quarter-note in 
one staff equals a quarter note in another staff regardless of the two 
time signatures.  Thus a section with 2/4 in some staves against 6/8 in 
other staves has all the 8ths moving at the same speed rather than 
different speeds, keeping the 2 beats in each of the different meters 
constant.  They will supposedly add that capability "in an upcoming 
upgrade" but the precise version number or date hasn't been indicated yet.

There's a lot Dorico does very nicely and a lot which I find to be very 
unintuitive (which I realize simply means that I haven't wrapped my head 
around their processes yet).

Anybody who wants to learn more about what Dorico can and can't do 
should join the Steinberg.net Dorico forum and ask specific questions 
about your notational desires/needs.  At this point someone on that 
forum, whether any of several Steinberg employees (including Daniel 
Spreadbury, the brains behind Dorico) or any of the many current Dorico 
users, will most likely have an answer.  There is also an online manual 
which can also be downloaded in PDF format for offline reading, at:
<https://steinberg.help/dorico/dorico/>

One final point which many people have found to be very off-putting: 
Dorico uses the very intrusive Steinberg licensing and activation 
process whereby you can only use the software on a single machine at a 
time because of either their e-licenser dongle (small and easily lost if 
you move around a lot) or through the use of their e-licenser software. 
You can have Dorico installed on any number of machines and you either 
plug in the USB dongle to be able to use Dorico on a specific machine or 
you de-activate it in the e-licenser software on one machine and then 
re-activate it on the other machine (you need to have the computers 
hooked up to the internet to use that process).   Personally I don't 
move between computers all that much and since I've yet to really get 
into using Dorico it isn't an issue -- I did purchase the USB dongle 
since I have more faith in hardware than in software.  I did have a 
motherboard failure shortly after installing Dorico and it was easy to 
get the program up and running on the new motherboard -- Steinberg does 
all it can within its "you can't use this on more than one machine at a 
time, dammit!" philosophy to make moving between machines easy.

If you have specific questions about specific notational wants/needs 
I'll be happy to try to answer them if I can.

David H. Bailey






On 9/1/2017 6:45 PM, James Gardner wrote:
> Hello Finale list
> 
> Has anyone here been checking out/using Dorico?
> 
> Interested to hear your thoughts on its engraving fine-tuning, horizontal
> spacing, handling of 20th/21st century notation etc.
> 
> Playback aspects are of little interest to me.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jim
> 


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