Thanks for the tip.  Not sure if I'm replying to this correctly so it posts,
  but here is what happened:

[localhost:~] anthony% startx -- -quartz

2002-07-26 16:06:47.355 XDarwin[869]
XDarwin 1.1
Running in parallel with Mac OS X Quartz window server.

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
         If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is
         newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
         reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Darwin
Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping.
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
Display mode: Full screen Quartz
Screen 0 added: 1280x1024 @ (0,0)
cat: /Users/anthony/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
/Users/anthony/.xinitrc: no such file or directory: /sw/bin/startkde [2]
Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping.
Display mode: Full screen Quartz
Screen 0 added: 1280x1024 @ (0,0)

waiting for X server to shut down Quitting XDarwin...

It says that .Xauthority is missing.  Unfortunately, I don't know what it 
is or where I would find it... any suggestions?  It also says I am missing 
startkde, but I thought I installed everything I needed for KDE to run.

Thanks,

Anthony


On Friday, July 26, 2002, at 11:28 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

> Try starting XDarwin from a Terminal window using
>
> 'startx -- -quartz'
>
> That way the error messages will print out.
>
> Also, you don't need system-xtools:  XTools is a commercial Xwindows server.
> What package is telling you that you need system-xtools?
>
> On Friday 26 July 2002 11:08, Anthony Tambourino wrote:
>> I searched the mailing list for this problem but didn't see it.  If it has
>> been explained before, sorry for reposting... just please point me to the
>> thread.
>>
>> I tried installing KDE.  After what appeared to be a successful
>> installation, I opened XDarwin and instead of opening up and going to KDE
>> (which supposedly it should have done).  XDarwin went to the gray screen,
>> then immediately quit without any type of error message.
>>
>> After futzing around for a bit, I went back into terminal and (probably
>> made the mistake of) reinstalling fink.  First it said I was missing
>> xfree-base and to install it.  I tried that, but it said I had to remove
>> X11R6 and X11.  So I did that.  It installed Xfree-base, but then it told
>> me I needed Xtools.  I tried to install Xtools, but it said Xfree-base
>> conflicts with Xtools so I need to remove X11 and X11R6 again.  Well, I
>> just did that to install Xfree-base, so I was just getting into a loop.  So
>> then I tried completely reinstalling fink (which again was probably a
>> mistake), figuring it would "reset" whatever I screwed up when I tried to
>> install KDE.  That didn't work because Xdarwin did the same thing as
>> before.
>>
>> Then I tried resintalling Xdarwin (actually I've tried that a couple of
>> times), but it did the same thing.
>>
>> So I tried to update everthing using sudo dselect.  It spent a long time
>> updating a lot of stuff (a good hour or so with just streams of text
>> running through Terminal).  Then it gave me error saying I needed Xtools,
>> but X11 and X11R6 needed to be removed (I think, I frankly can't remember
>> anymore).  Sounded like I was in the same loop again of it telling me to
>> install something that conflicts with something I just installed before
>> that.
>>
>> I'd like to just uninstall everything and try again, unless somebody else
>> has a simpler suggestion.  Right now, I'm tapped out!
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> -Anthony
>>
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