Thanks, it works a little better now. This is what I put at the end of my .xinitrc file:

xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
#xset b off &
#xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
#xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login &
#exec enlightenment
exec twm

and below is the response at the terminal.
It does put an xterm up that I can move.
1) Does anyone know how to fix the errors below?
Am I supposed to have a .Xauthority file in my local directory?
2) Is there any way to make the windows served up by the X server
show where they are going when you 'grab' them with a mouse to
move them? I was able to move mine but it is a blind process as
I can't see where the window is going until I release the mouse button.

Thanks,
Chris



[Wormwood:~] beamis% startx -- -rootless

2002-12-29 00:06:54.554 XDarwin[8848]
XDarwin 1.1.1.1
Running rootless inside Mac OS X window server.

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
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XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Darwin
Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping.
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
Display mode: Rootless Quartz
Screen 0 added: 1280x1003 @ (0,21)
Screen 0 placed at X11 coordinate (0,0).
cat: /Users/beamis/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error: Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
> Exiting
> Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error: Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
> Exiting
> Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server


On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 11:08 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Chris Beamis wrote:
[]
But of course it isn't going to be quite that easy...
My .xinitrc file looks like below, and I put the messages printed to the OS-X xterm below that.
The .xinitrc is just a copy of the system xinitrc plus a few lines at the bottom from an example
on the fink help page at sourceforge.
It puts 3 xterms on the screen, each with black print on white background.
Question 1) I can't seem to move them, or minimize them or anything except type in them.
This is because you don't start any window manager, see below.
[]
Question 2) I just installed The Gimp, and checked to see if it is there by
Wormwood:~] beamis% echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[[Wormwood:~] beamis% which gimp
gimp: Command not found.
[Wormwood:~] beamis% which /sw/bin/gimp
/sw/bin/gimp
If this happens, you need to issue a "rehash" command. This will refresh tcsh's internal list of all executables in the PATH. As you noticed, starting a new shell in a new window does the trick, too.

Now to your .xinitrc file"

#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $
source /sw/bin/init.sh
This is OK.

[copy of system xinitrc omitted]

xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
This is the last line executed. The following lines will be ignored. "exec" does this, so want to have only one line beginning with "exec" in your ~/.xinitrc.


xset b off
exec enlightenment
#exec twm
Your enlightenment will never be started.

--
Martin




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