I had previously downgraded. When the latest round of gnome-related updates was posted, I did an update-all. Gnome icons and menu bars appeared normal. The "stuck window" problem suggested trying the downgrade again; however, now the downgrade results in loss of gnome icons (in the menu bars). With the (unstable) version, the icons are there but windows are stuck with sawfish, not with twm.

Stan


On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:48 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

If you haven't done it already, downgrade imlib to 1.9.10-9.

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On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Stan Sanderson wrote:

I also found that twm allows me to move windows. However, I also found
that I created a conflict (apparently) by using conflicting versions of
libpnp

Console log from gnome-session:

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

GnomeUI-WARNING **: Could not open help topics file NULL
libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.5
libpng warning: Application  is running with png.c from libpng-1.0.12
libpng error: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
IMLIB ERROR: Cannot load image:
/sw/share/sawfish/1.1/themes/Crux/inactive
All fallbacks failed.
Error: no such image,
/sw/share/sawfish/1.1/themes/Crux/inactive:top-left-border.png

** WARNING **: Task not found in tasklist: 0x2b8f00; not destroying

** WARNING **: Task not found in tasklist: 0x2b8f00; not destroying
It looks as if I've got some work to do if I want to go back to sawfish.

Stan

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 09:58 PM, James Gibbs wrote:

That's it!!!
I switched to twm using gnome's control center and got my window
ornaments back!!! Now I can drag windows. Now I can resize windows.
Life is good! :)

Thank you Alex. Now I'm gonna try rebuilding sawfish and see if that
fixes it.

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:19  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

Well, it could be that your previous window manager is crashing...

What do you have in your .xinitrc?

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Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University
visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center
Levitated Dipole Experiment
175 Albany Street, NW17-219
Cambridge, MA  02139-4213

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Stan Sanderson wrote:

Andrew-

Gnome (start-up window) reports that Sawfish is starting;
Gnome-terminal tells me that only one window manager can run at a
time
when I enter "sawfish".

I'd have to assume Sawfish (my window manager?) is running.

Thanks!

Stan


On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 08:44  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

Here's something that just occurred to me.  I had a similar issue
when
I
tried Apple X11, because my window manager never got started.  Can
you
verify that your window manager is in fact running?
--
Alexander K. Hansen
Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University
visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center
Levitated Dipole Experiment
175 Albany Street, NW17-219
Cambridge, MA  02139-4213

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Stan Sanderson wrote:

I have not found a solution to the problem as previously posted:

Package manager version: 0.11.2
Distribution version: 0.5.1.cvs
Mac OS X version: 10.2.3
December 2002 Developer Tools
gcc version: 3.1
make version: 3.79

Since the most recent round of updates, windows created by Gnome
applications are anchored to the upper left-hand corner (0,0) of
the
screen. Furthermore, the ability to resize windows has
disappeared. I
realize that by using unstable versions of the software I'm always
running a risk that things won't work, but I was wondering if
someone
might have a suggestion as to what might be causing the problem.
I rebuilt (yesterday) Gnome related files without success. I hoped
today's Gnome updates might provide a solution, but the problem
remains. The X11 patch has been applied and those files have been
rebuilt also. I have been <rm -r .gnome> in between each effort.

The fact that I seem to be the only one with the problem suggests
I'm
missing something simple. Gnome was working fine before the batch
of
updates prior to today's. Suggestions would be much appreciated.

Stan



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