On Jan 30, 2008 2:47 PM, Alexander K. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > | On Jan 30, 2008 8:39 AM, Steffen Hokland wrote: > |> Hi, > |> > |> I'm installing gnuplot on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.1. > |> > |> I have installed TeXLive with the MacTex-distribution - however in > |> order to install Gnuplot I am prompted to choose an additional tex- > |> install through Fink. Is there of installing Gnuplot without having to > |> install an additional tex-distribution (apart from loosing the MacTeX > |> one and using Fink-tex instead)? > | > | If you ask me, the best thing to do it would be modifyung gnuplot > | build, so that it would not require TeX (it uses it for building the > | documentation only). > | > | I have once managed to do it by copying the neccessary files to the > | places where fink complained the files were missing (I don't remember > | details, but something like: copy /usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.cnf to > | /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf etc.). That's the ugliest possible way to > | do it, but I had no other choice. > | Anther option is to install fink's tetex and modify PATH, so that > | fink's TeX comes at the end (and then you will still be able to use > | MacTeX): > | export PATH=.:~/bin:/usr/texbin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:etc. > | (texbin is gwTeX's binary path - it might be slightly different for > MacTeX) > | > | A much better option would be to have a TeXLive package for fink (or > | to fix system-tetex, but they seem to refuse that change), but it > | takes a lot of time to figure out how to squeeze texlive on a > | reasonable space (I have no experience with creating fink packges and > | no idea what to do with 1GB of material there). > | > | I have run into some serious dependency problems lately (that was > | after installing fink's tetex - which I find useless to me as it is so > | old that nothing I need would compile there). Some package (I have no > | idea which one - there were about 60 which needed update) asked me to > | choose between "system-tetex" and "jadetex" or something. Of course I > | had neither, I have tried different things, but my fink is completely > | broken now (unresolved dependencies). > | s > | Mojca > | > | > As we've said before: > > There isn't going to be a _fix_ for system-tetex, since upstream > developers like to move files around with each release and thereby cause > system-tetex to break, and because the different providers of TeX can > feel free to make their distributions slightly different from each > other. It's a maintenance headache. That's why we don't even have > system-tetex in Leopard. > > If we can find somebody to put forth the time and effort to package > texlive up correctly, that would be the best solution, but it looks like > the developers who could potentially do so have other priorities. Also, > there may be packages with runtime TeX dependencies that could be > refactored not to drag TeX in. Our texshop package doesn't depend on > TeX, for example, even though it relies on it.
That would be handy for gnuplot as well. > I've been opposed to packages forcing people to install TeX just for doc > generation. I think such packages should build their docs separately > from the main build. In the case of gnuplot, though, I'm not 100% sure > that it doesn't use TeX: there are a few TeX-related terminal types > which may not be enabled if the package is built in the absence of TeX. I know a bit of gnuplot internals (I wrote a ConTeXt terminal for gnuplot, based on the one for LaTeX and metapost), and neither of those terminals depends on LaTeX (they are all compiled unconditianally into gnuplot). The conditionally compiled terminals include: X11, Aqua, Windows, wxt (depends on pangocairo, freetype etc.), png/jpg (depend on glib), etc. ... (I can ask on the gnuplot mailing list to confirm that if that would be of any help.) LaTeX terminal only outputs pure LaTeX (ascii) documents, without trying to compile them. Of course one cannot compile the resulting document without LaTeX (just as one cannot see SVG graphics without a proper viewer), but that's not something for which gnuplot should require TeX to be installed. The olny dependency I know about is compilation of PDF documentation. I can understand that xetex or other packages (which were not in teTeX, but are now in TeX Live) might require the proper TeX to be installed, but for gnuplot this is really not the case. Mojca ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Fink-beginners mailing list [email protected] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.beginners
