On Wednesday, July 16, 2008, at 09:44AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Send Fink-beginners mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-beginners >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Fink-beginners digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Newby Questions: Aqua/nox, updates, and direct install > (Marshall Feldman) > 2. update-all fails with gimp (Fredrik Lundgren) > 3. Fwd: gnome update in the stable tree (Daniel Macks) > 4. Re: update-all fails with gimp (Daniel E. Macks) > 5. gnome update in the stable tree (David R. Morrison) > 6. Remove dependencies not longer needed (Florian Lindner) > 7. Re: Remove dependencies not longer needed (Alexander Hansen) > 8. Re: if you use fink to install gnucash (David T.) > 9. Re: if you use fink to install gnucash (Alexander K. Hansen) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:38:08 +0000 (UTC) >From: Marshall Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Fink-beginners] Newby Questions: Aqua/nox, updates, and > direct install >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Hi, > >I'm new to Fink and have three Newby questions: > >1. Initially, I'm trying to use Fink to install Unison. When I search for >"Unison" in FinkCommander, two items come up. They are very similar, but one is >called "unison-aqua" and the other, "unison-nox." I then looked at other >entries >in FinkCommander, and found others with "nox" or "aqua" in their names. I've >searched and searched but can find no documentation on the difference between >"aqua" and "nox." What's the difference? Even better, where can I find >documentation on this subject? > >2. The version of Unison available with Fink is 2.13.16, but the Unison web >site >has version 2.27.57 in source code and a link to a site with version 2.27.72 >already compiled for OS X Leopard. (Why the source should lag the binary rather >than the other way around escapes me.) This raises the question, what's the >typical lag between the release of a new version of a software and its >availability through Fink? I realize there must be some variability here, but >if >Fink is updated say every 18 months, it may be worthwhile to bypass Fink. On >the >other hand, if he delay is only, say, a week, then it's probably worthwhile to >wait for Fink to catch up. > >3. This brings up a third question. Supposed that I decide to download and >install version 2.27.72 directly from the Unison web site and bypass Fink. What >issues do I have to be careful about if I have an earlier version installed >with >Fink? What if I do not have a version installed with Fink but may want to use >Fink in the future? > >Thanks for your help > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:19:29 +0200 >From: Fredrik Lundgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Fink-beginners] update-all fails with gimp >To: [email protected] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Hello, >When I run fink update-all I have problems with Gimp > >libtool: link: cannot find the library `/sw/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.la' >make[3]: *** [svg] Error 1 >make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >make: *** [all] Error 2 >### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.2.34pTc0 failed, exit code 2 >Removing runtime build-lock... >Removing build-lock package... >/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-gimp2-2.0.6-1007 >(L?ser databasen ... 94166 filer och kataloger installerade.) >Tar bort fink-buildlock-gimp2-2.0.6-1007 ... >Failed: phase compiling: gimp2-2.0.6-1007 failed > >In what package can i find "libpangoft2-1.0.la"? > >Best wishes Fredrik > >######################## > >Fredrik Lundgren >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Obs! Ny adress och mail > >Engelbrektsgatan 31 >582 21 Link?ping >013 - 47 30 117 >0706 - 86 39 29 > >Sommarhus: Ljungn?s 158 >380 30 Rockneby >0480 - 650 98 > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:41:35 -0400 >From: Daniel Macks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Fink-beginners] Fwd: gnome update in the stable tree >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [email protected], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Forwarded message from "David R. Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>Last night, the massive gnome update which has been in process for >>many months was merged into fink's unstable tree. This is well >>tested, and updates by users appear to be going fairly smoothly. >> >>Today, we will merge the gnome update into the stable tree. Because >>we have been unable to test the dependencies of these new packages >>in the stable tree in advance, users can expect the "stable" tree to >>be "not so stable" during the next few weeks, while the bugs get >>worked out. >> >>If you are eager to start using this massive gnome update >>immediately, we suggest that you switch to the unstable tree. If >>not, we suggest that you hold off running "fink selfupdate" for a >>while (perhaps a week or two) until things have again stabilized. >> >>Watch this list for progress reports. >> >>-- Dave > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:48:05 +0000 (UTC) >From: "Daniel E. Macks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Fink-beginners] update-all fails with gimp >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Fredrik Lundgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Hello, >> When I run fink update-all I have problems with Gimp >> >> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/sw/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.la' >> make[3]: *** [svg] Error 1 >> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> make: *** [all] Error 2 >> ### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.2.34pTc0 failed, exit code 2 >> Removing runtime build-lock... >> Removing build-lock package... >> /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-gimp2-2.0.6-1007 >> (L?ser databasen ... 94166 filer och kataloger installerade.) >> Tar bort fink-buildlock-gimp2-2.0.6-1007 ... >> Failed: phase compiling: gimp2-2.0.6-1007 failed >> >> In what package can i find "libpangoft2-1.0.la"? > >I think gimp2 is not yet fixed for the new gnome library update from >yesterday...maintainer knows and is working on it. > >dan > >-- >Daniel Macks >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:41:32 -0700 >From: "David R. Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Fink-beginners] gnome update in the stable tree >To: fink-devel fink-devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Fink-Users Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >Last night, the massive gnome update which has been in process for >many months was merged into fink's unstable tree. This is well >tested, and updates by users appear to be going fairly smoothly. > >Today, we will merge the gnome update into the stable tree. Because >we have been unable to test the dependencies of these new packages in >the stable tree in advance, users can expect the "stable" tree to be >"not so stable" during the next few weeks, while the bugs get worked >out. > >If you are eager to start using this massive gnome update immediately, >we suggest that you switch to the unstable tree. If not, we suggest >that you hold off running "fink selfupdate" for a while (perhaps a >week or two) until things have again stabilized. > >Watch this list for progress reports. > > -- Dave > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:10:07 +0200 >From: Florian Lindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Fink-beginners] Remove dependencies not longer needed >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >Hello, > >is there any way to cleanup (=remove) packages that have been >installed as a dependency of some other package and are not need >anymore (e.g. the other package has been removed or the dependency has >changed)? > >Thanks, > >Florian > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:22:19 -0400 >From: Alexander Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Fink-beginners] Remove dependencies not longer needed >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >On Wednesday 16 July 2008 09:10:07 Florian Lindner wrote: >> Hello, >> >> is there any way to cleanup (=remove) packages that have been >> installed as a dependency of some other package and are not need >> anymore (e.g. the other package has been removed or the dependency has >> changed)? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Florian >> >> - > >The debfoster package might be what you want. You can use it to look for >packages that nothing depends on, mark them for removal, and then remove >them. Of course, very often nothing depends on a package with programs that >a user would run directly, so some care is needed. >-------------- next part -------------- >A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >Name: not available >Type: application/pgp-signature >Size: 189 bytes >Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) >From: "David T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Fink-beginners] if you use fink to install gnucash >To: GNUCash Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David > Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >As one of those eager types, I have jumped in to try this update. Here's where >I stand so far (note that I continue to cycle through the selfupdate|update >process in the hopes that the various dependencies will ultimately get loaded >and the update will complete): > >1) I am asked to identify several virtual dependencies: ghostscript, octave, >gnuplot. I didn't have this in the most recent fink update. Accepting the >defaults and proceeding with installation has gotten me down from 282 packages >to 85, but... > >2) There seems to be a problem with ghostscript. One time through the cycle, >fink craps out with an inconsistent dependencies error, and tells me to "fink >scanpackages|sudo apt-get update|sudo apt-get install ghostscript=8.61-5". >When I do this, fink changes the virtual dependency questions. I embed them >here: > >----------------------------------- >fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >candidates: > >(1) tetex-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >(2) ptex-base: ASCII publishing TeX >(3) ptex-nox-base: ASCII publishing TeX >(4) tetex-nox-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation > >Pick one: [3] > >fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >candidates: > >(1) ghostscript-nox: Interpreter for PostScript and PDF >(2) ghostscript6-nox: Intrp. for PostScript/PDF, v6.01, no X11 support > >Pick one: [1] > >fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >candidates: > >(1) tetex-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >(2) tetex-nox-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >(3) ptex-base: ASCII publishing TeX >(4) ptex-nox-base: ASCII publishing TeX > >Pick one: [4] > >fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >candidates: > >(1) octave-atlas: Matlab-like language for computations >(2) octave: Matlab-like language for computations > >Pick one: [1] > >fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >candidates: > >(1) gnuplot: Command-driven interactive plotting program >(2) gnuplot-nox: Command-driven interactive plotting program > >Pick one: [1] >------------------------- > >I'll note that ptex/tetex comes up twice, and ghostscript-nox comes up (even >though I just installed ghostscript=8.61-5). During the install, it looks like >ghostscript gets uninstalled in favor of ghostscript-nox, and then fink craps >out with a circular dependencies error. > >Cheers, >David > >--- On Mon, 7/14/08, David Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: David Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: if you use fink to install gnucash >> To: "GNUCash Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 9:17 PM >> The Great Gnome Update in fink has occurred. Taking pieces >> of Gnome >> from as old as 2.12 up to mostly 2.20, there're lots of >> upgraded apps. >> >> The biggest changes for fink users of gnucash (via the fink >> package >> named gnucash2) is that now printing will work much better >> and you can >> edit account names without crashing gnucash. >> >> One potential sticking point is that if you have custom >> defined check >> formats, you will have to create them again. Gnomeprint >> (the old) had >> its page origin (0,0) at the lower left of the page. >> GtkPrint (the >> new) has its origin at the upper left of the page. >> >> This major update affects any fink user who has OS X 10.4 >> or 10.5 on >> their machine. >> >> Since the change happened tonight, you may want to wait a >> day for the >> dust to settle. I have been using gnucash built against the >> new gnome >> dependencies for many weeks. I don't expect problems >> as long as the >> fink mirrors keep things straight, and fink itself >> doesn't try to >> build the new versions out of order. >> >> If things work as planned, issuing the following commands >> in a >> terminal window should get you gnucash built against the >> new gnome >> packages: >> fink selfupdate >> fink update gnucash2 >> >> Be prepared for the update step to take a long time-- maybe >> as long as >> the first time you built gnucash2. Fink will probably ask >> you if it is >> OK to upgrade another 100 packages along with gnucash2 (say >> yes!) >> Gnucash will still be version 2.2.5. (You could also do >> 'fink update- >> all' instead of 'fink update gnucash2'. It >> shouldn't matter for >> gnucash. If you use other fink programs update-all might be >> a better >> route.) >> >> While not necessary, I upgraded the versions of guile and >> slib used by >> gnucash to 1.8 and 3b1 in the new gnucash2 packaging. It >> will take a >> few more minutes to do the update, but these are current >> versions >> instead of nearly ancient ones. >> >> Dave >> -- >> David Reiser >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> ----- >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:44:26 -0400 >From: "Alexander K. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Fink-beginners] if you use fink to install gnucash >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [email protected], David Reiser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >ptex-nox-base is set up only to use ghostscript-nox. Try ptex-base instead. > >David T. wrote: >> As one of those eager types, I have jumped in to try this update. Here's >> where I stand so far (note that I continue to cycle through the >> selfupdate|update process in the hopes that the various dependencies will >> ultimately get loaded and the update will complete): >> >> 1) I am asked to identify several virtual dependencies: ghostscript, octave, >> gnuplot. I didn't have this in the most recent fink update. Accepting the >> defaults and proceeding with installation has gotten me down from 282 >> packages to 85, but... >> >> 2) There seems to be a problem with ghostscript. One time through the cycle, >> fink craps out with an inconsistent dependencies error, and tells me to >> "fink scanpackages|sudo apt-get update|sudo apt-get install >> ghostscript=8.61-5". When I do this, fink changes the virtual dependency >> questions. I embed them here: >> >> ----------------------------------- >> fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >> candidates: >> >> (1) tetex-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >> (2) ptex-base: ASCII publishing TeX >> (3) ptex-nox-base: ASCII publishing TeX >> (4) tetex-nox-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >> >> Pick one: [3] >> >> fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >> candidates: >> >> (1) ghostscript-nox: Interpreter for PostScript and PDF >> (2) ghostscript6-nox: Intrp. for PostScript/PDF, v6.01, no X11 support >> >> Pick one: [1] >> >> fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >> candidates: >> >> (1) tetex-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >> (2) tetex-nox-base: Base programs for a teTeX installation >> (3) ptex-base: ASCII publishing TeX >> (4) ptex-nox-base: ASCII publishing TeX >> >> Pick one: [4] >> >> fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >> candidates: >> >> (1) octave-atlas: Matlab-like language for computations >> (2) octave: Matlab-like language for computations >> >> Pick one: [1] >> >> fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The >> candidates: >> >> (1) gnuplot: Command-driven interactive plotting program >> (2) gnuplot-nox: Command-driven interactive plotting program >> >> Pick one: [1] >> ------------------------- >> >> I'll note that ptex/tetex comes up twice, and ghostscript-nox comes up (even >> though I just installed ghostscript=8.61-5). During the install, it looks >> like ghostscript gets uninstalled in favor of ghostscript-nox, and then fink >> craps out with a circular dependencies error. >> >> Cheers, >> David >> >> > > > > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Fink-beginners mailing list >[email protected] >http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.beginners > >End of Fink-beginners Digest, Vol 27, Issue 8 >********************************************* > >
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