Okay -- I'll check in periodically.  This is unfortunate.  Molmol is dated, but 
there are a few things that it does really well, much better than most of the 
current software.  Fingers crossed for a fix.
all the best,
g

On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Jack Howarth wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:37:54AM -0700, Glenn Millhauser wrote:
>> Thank you, Jack.  So then even if I install Macports, molmol will not run -- 
>> am I right on this?  I guess, then, molmol is dead for the time being.  Is 
>> there any way for me to follow the Xquartz progress to see when things are 
>> updated, thus enabling molmol, once again?  My understanding of all this 
>> stuff is not deep -- I really appreciate the information/advice.
>> thanks,
>> glenn
>> 
> 
> Glenn,
>   The Xquartz development mailing list is archived at 
> http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/xquartz-dev/.
> The MacPorts xorg packages are more or less synchronized with those releases. 
> In MacPorts, they build and link
> against those xorg packages in /opt/local but run with the Xserver from 
> either the system X11 or Xquartz.
> I've opened https://svn.macports.org/ticket/30746 but wouldn't get my hopes 
> up for a quick fix since we never
> determined what xorg change eliminated the previous instance of this widget 
> issue in MacPorts. Also if it
> is a fixable flaw in X11/Xquartz, you'll have to wait for a fixed release of 
> either the system X11 or Xquartz.
>                Jack
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jack Howarth wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 09:49:09AM -0700, Glenn Millhauser wrote:
>>>> So does this mean that we have no chance of getting molmol running again?  
>>>> Jack, if I understand correctly, you tried to build a fresh molmol in Lion 
>>>> with the latest Fink distribution, but the windows still do not display 
>>>> properly.  Is there anything that you recommend that I try?  If I 
>>>> understand Alexander's suggestion, I could install the latest Fink and 
>>>> then try "fink rebuild molmol."  Any chance of that solving the problem?
>>>> thanks,
>>>> glenn
>>> 
>>> Glenn,
>>>  What is means is that the issue has to be punted to the Xquartz 
>>> developers. This is one reason
>>> I ported molmol/pymol to MacPorts was so that those packages could be 
>>> tested against the upcoming
>>> Xquartz releases (which appear in the form of their xorg related packages). 
>>> Either the problem
>>> was previously fixed and then broken again or it just went latent for 
>>> awhile. This was a major
>>> concern of mine about the absence of Xquartz support in fink (that we would 
>>> be blindsided with
>>> X11 issues on new system releases that adopted the work from Xquartz).
>>>                 Jack
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:54 AM, Jack Howarth wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I have been able to tell the breakage seems to be introduced 
>>>>> with the
>>>>> new X11 in Lion. The molmol program built either under SL and run under 
>>>>> Lion or
>>>>> built under Lion fails to display the widgets or menus in its windows. 
>>>>> The current
>>>>> bahavior looks a lot like something we saw on MacPorts previously...
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/21835
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps the problem resurfaced again. Unfortunately it was never 
>>>>> determined exactly
>>>>> what change to the xorg packages solved the problem.
>>>>>           Jack
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