Some further thoughts: <snip> > <mrkiwi> Consolidation: > > Yes, getting Gentoo and all the other groups working with Fink was a > > good idea, but so far it has been poorly executed. There's no > > organization for the new influx of developers, which makes forums like > > this almost useless as well as the package tracker, etc. We need a > > darned "spring cleaning" of the entire site because the community > > environment is getting screwy.</mrkiwi> > > </david>Metapkg,org has been announced before WWDC because that is something > Apple said inofficially they would be fond off. Futhermore the timing > had been chosen to not let this slip beneath the stream of news from > WWDC but to have the news picked up before WWDC. Traditionally even the > non Mac World looks toward the Mac world shortly before WWDC. That > there is not real infrastructure is something everyone is well aware. > But fink-devel really is not the place to address metapkg issues, you > might want to discuss that on their mailing list.</david> > <akh>Amplifying on this point: the existence of the metapkg mailing list should cut down on traffic on this list regarding questions of "how do I get foo ported to Darwin". Moreover, the fink tracker isn't going to be receiving Gentoo and OpenDarwin packages as well, so I don't think this is a problem. It's really just to make things more efficient: each of the three systems in the metapkg consortium can use their own package management on a common port. It's also been going on anyway: Ben Reed's been working on KDE for DarwinPorts as well as Fink.</akh>
<snip> > > > <mrkiwi>I'd even be willing to do some website work on the fink homepage, > > considering it gets stranger and more confusing by the day.</mrkiwi> > <david>Since this is a major issue and we do not wish to confuse our users, > could you please elaborate where it is confusing and how we might go > about fixing it?</david> <akh>I concur. As someone who has worked on the documentation, I'd like to mention that I've received a few complaints/suggestions from ueers, and have acted on all of them. That being said, getting any feedback at all is rare.</akh> <snip> > > <mrkiwi>Target Markets: > > > > A novice user running Fink Commander doesn't know if or why their > > packages aren't updating. Regular Mac OS X users should be your > > demographic target, but icky *nix problems get in the way. Maybe it's > > time to have a Fink Application written with Quartz API's to come > > along and save the day. With umpteen hundred packages floating > > around, users need easy access to config settings and other "geeky" > > parts.</mrkiwi> > > > <david>We have already adopted FinkCommander as an "official" Frontend to fink > (the package manager therefore I am writing fink uncapped). The Author > is very helpful and thus I do not believe that we should have any > reason to change that. Adding access to configuration files and the > like is something which can surely be added to FinkCommander. If you > are interested in helping the author out, please do contact him.</david> > <akh>It's worth mentioning that novice users doen't necessarily know hohw to upgrade _any_ software that doesn't nag them about it (Office X comes to mind here). I had thought that the proposed .app was to modify runtime config files for installed packages (kind of like webmin does).</akh> -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University, visiting MIT PSFC Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
