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Benjamin Reed wrote:
> David H. wrote:
> 
>> no, I am not. That are exactly the words that they told me. The
>> likelyhood
>> that we will end up in court because we "violate" the GPL is about 0.
>> Not to
>> mention that we are not the "active party" in this case. The long
>> version on
>> this topic is about 2 hours and a dinner worth.
> 
> 
> As the "PR guy" I'm amazed that that is the only concern you have.  :P

You know my stance on licensing very well, especially when it comes to the GPL.
> 
> I think bucking the GPL with that kind of attitude is a bad idea.  If it
> were "the 'system library' thing is a bit murky, I think it could still
> be considered such, even though we're installing an updated version in
> an alternate location" that's one thing, but if it's "f**k it, let them
> try to sue us" that's another thing altogether.
>
If I had said that, yes indeed. What I meant to express is that we should not
waste our time adressing this issue when there are more important things to
get done. Let's take the g++ ABI changes for one thing.
And yes, I also think that we should not adopt a policy or attitude where we
try to go out of our way just because there "might" be legal implications.
When it comes down to hard facts, then I am more than willing to change
something, do something about a given situation. So please apologise for my
lack of emotional detachment when I said what I did.

> Is it really that hard to set things that want openssl097 to Restrictive
> until we can get them either building against the system libcrypto or
> updated to use GNUTLS?  (Or confirmed to have a compatible license?)
> 
>> Yes, but not with European.
> 
> 
> And where is Fink incorporated again?
> 
That does not matter when it comes to copy right. Not at all.

>> Sorry, but that is downright wrong. As long as I do nto sign my right
>> of sole
>> use and enjoyment over to Fink Developer Network, the copyright as
>> well as the
>> "licensing" remains in my hands. Of course Fink may choose to reject
>> my patch
>> when its licensing does not fit into a scheme we choose, but as long
>> as that
>> not happens, that patch is mine to deal with and it is licensed as I
>> find fit.
>> That is why all my patches would be licensed as BSD for example.
> 
> 
> I agree here.  I can't imagine there's such thing as "implied" copyright
> assignment just by uploading.
There is not. Just as the copyright is always bound to the countries copyright
where the "work has been finished, or created".

>  Copyright is always the creator's unless
> specifically notified.  I doubt it will be much of a big deal to contact
> all maintainers and ask them for consent to consider their .info files
> to be released under the GPL, and to put a notice up that all future
> submissions will be the same.
> 
Actually I would very much enjoy it if we had a choice here between BSD ad GPL.

- -d
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