Martin Costabel wrote:
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>    cd /sw/fink/10.4
>    mv stable /dev/null
>    mv unstable stable
>    mv pangocairo-branch/unstable unstable
> 
> I know it's a dream, 

After looking for a while at the state of pangocairo-branch/stable, I am 
now convinced that what I proposed is not a dream, it is a necessity.

I would now even go further and say:

The only realistic way to deploy the pangocairo branch is to scrap not 
only the 10.4/stable tree, but also 10.4/unstable and pc/stable. At the 
moment of deployment, both 10.4/stable and 10.4/unstable should become a 
copy of pc/unstable. Afterwards, changes to the stable tree should 
concentrate on bug fixes (and eliminating non-working packages).

Let's face it:
- Since the time of the last official bindist (April 2006), *all* 
maintenance and testing efforts went into the unstable trees, and 
rightly so. From what I have seen, almost all the heroic work for the 
pangocairo branch went into unstable, too.
- The existing live bindists are all based on the unstable tree, and our 
standard advice to a user who complains about a problem with the stable 
tree is to "activate unstable".
_ On Leopard, no one in their right mind uses stable.

All this gets urgent now with the pc-branch. The pc/stable tree is in 
large parts at least a year behind the 10.4/stable tree (Even gtk+2 is 
far older - 2.4.9 instead of 2.6.10). Merging it with 10.4/stable would 
be a *major* effort, and we should not waste our precious manpower with 
this.

I personally know that I will not spend time with the 18 out of my 32 
packages in pc/stable that are far older than their counterparts in 
10.4/stable, nor with finding out why 5 packages - among them packages 
whose existence I have forgotten - exist in one tree and not in the 
other. Although I have never done this before, I would start 
unmaintaining packages.

Keeping a pre-pangocairo/stable tree alongside a pangocairo/unstable 
tree will not work, either. How could we then move packages from 
unstable to stable?

IMHO, the conclusion is inevitable.

-- 
Martin







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