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Jack Howarth wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:12:47PM -0400, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> Robert Wyatt wrote:
>>>> Jack Howarth wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:35:26AM -0500, Robert Wyatt wrote:
>>>>>> Jack Howarth wrote:
>>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>>   Well, the problem is that the bulk (if not all)
>>>>>>> of X11 Xquartz will likely appear in a future software
>>>>>>> update of the X11 components from Apple.
>>>>>> Not that it won't or that I wouldn't like to see it, but when has this  
>>>>>> ever happened before?  --Robert
>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>     There was some pymol breakage
>>>>>                Jack
>>>> Jack,
>>>> It seems we're miscommunicating. I meant when has there ever been a
>>>> Software Update that upgraded X11 (since 10.4 when it came in from 
>>>> beta)? Not when has there been pymol breakage.  --Robert
>>>>
>>>>
> Actually it came in from beta on 10.3
> 
> There was an official update of 10.4's X11 via Software Update.  And on
> Leopard a number of the system updates included files in the X11
> distribution.
> 
> I'd guess that folks who stuck with official X11 only probably didn't
> experience any breakage, other than the fact that the X11 SDK in Xcode
> didn't sync up with the libraries until about Xcode 3.1.2 or so.

> Alexander,
>    I'm not talking about build breakage ala the missing .la
> but render problems due to changes in the GL DRI which weren't
> tested with programs like pymol which exercises OpenGL very
> hard. Pymol actually can do some really amazing things with
> graphics.

> http://pymol.org/zalman/

> without even resorting to the normal hardware stereo quad
> buffer support and shutter glasses.
>             Jack

Ah; that's a different matter then.  I haven't actually been using the
official Leopard X11 myself, and I assumed that the changes were smaller
than that.


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Alexander Hansen
Fink User Liaison
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