On Saturday, June 15, 2002, at 11:01  PM, xfesty wrote:

>> First my setup: I use all source this time around, Dec tools  - no 
>> binaries. I
>> have found through past experience that mixing the 2 is just not 
>> reliable (for
>> me ,anyway).
>
> Yeah - this is my first experience with OSX, I can't really format at 
> the
> moment (I'm mobile, not home, so I cant backup the ~25gig of important
> data).

He didn't say to reformat though. Worst case -- and I don't think this 
is worst case -- just nuke your /sw directory and start over. You should 
just be able to start using "fink install..." (after doing a 'fink 
selfupdate-cvs') to apply source-built versions over the 
binary-installed ones you have already. With luck this might have the 
same effect, less desctructively. Otherwise, like was suggested, nuke 
/sw [and leave the rest of your system alone! Fink tries hard to keep 
itself compartmentalized, and this is exactly why that's a good 
thing :) ].

>> I found that my xmms acted the same way as yours until I installed
>> bundle-gnome.
>> Then, for *whatever* reason, it started working just fine.
>
> root@stygian[~]# apt-get install bundle-gnome
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Sorry, bundle-gnome is already the newest version.
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
>
> Damn.. Guess installing it won't help ;(  Did you mean installing this 
> via
> fink (source), though?

Yep. Repeat that with a "fink install..." & you may get a newer 
version...


> ... that wont work though, see my Evolution post - the compiling 
> crashes at
> gnome-control-center.

Oh :/

> Ah.  The order I did things in (mac newbie, long time unix user) was to
> install the April dev tools, then a precompiled Xdarwin, then fink
               ^^^^^

The jury is still out, but this might have been your culprit. The 
December version just seems to be better tested at this point...

> The system's a mess, but cleaning it up isn't
> really a choice at the moment, unfournately.

Sure it is. Move /sw to say /softare, move /Developer to /Dev_2002-04, 
then reinstall a new Fink and the old devtools. Once you get those up & 
running, it is possible -- and actually kinda easy -- to move over the 
binaries you built or installed with your old Fink installation: they'll 
all be kept as .deb files under /sw/fink. Poke around and you'll get the 
idea: /sw/fink/dists has a package catalog tree, while /sw/fink/debs has 
symlinks to .deb's deep under the dists tree. If you're comfortable with 
FreeBSD, you should be able to make sense of this stuff pretty readily.

All you have to do is move the .debs under there to the new /sw folder 
that your new Fink creates, then run "fink install..." on each package 
you want to reapply. This will unpack the archive files into the new /sw 
tree, and you can be back up & running with everything pretty quickly -- 
even if there is 5gb worth of stuff in there. If you already have the 
.debs for it -- and it seems that you do -- then one "fink install 
bundle-gnome" will grab everything from your local filesystem and you 
skip past downloading & building everything.

This isn't 100%, but it's  not *that* painful. Certainly not as bad as 
reinstalling the entire operating system could be. See the list archives 
for more details, I know that I & others have given tutorials over this 
material more than once. With 5gb of material to reapply, you *would* 
represent a pretty extreme case :), but I still think that you could go 
through with a reinstall moderately painlessly.


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