On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 11:29, Josh Kuperman wrote: 
> I followed the instructions on installing Apples X11 as best I could
> give my circumstances. This is on my powerbook (no mouse hooked up at
> the moment) December 2002 tools, recent failed attempts to update
> everything, and following the instructions to install as spelled out
> on the fink web sited. (dpkg to force remove my xfree86, install the
> SDK and X11 user, fink selfupdate-cvs, etc.)
> 
> I had been using the threaded versions of xfree86, so I'm sure I have
> some application issues. I also seem to be in the middle of an
> unsuccessful attempt to update KDE and I'm not even sure if that is
> relevant anymore. I need a little help to answer the following
> questions:
> 
> 1. How to I remove/replace any apps that depended on "threaded" with
>    ones that don't? What window manager options do I have? I was using
>    KDE before. As my KDE set up seems slightly screwed anyhow and
>    I have a dependency problem that is preventing me from
>    updating. But if I can't use it with Apples X11 then I want to
>    remove it - rather than fix it.
KDE works OK--I built some components against the Apple X and it looks
fine. 

> 
> Unpacking replacement kdelibs3-ssl-dev ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-ssl-dev:
>  kdelibs3-ssl-dev depends on kdelibs3-ssl (>= 3.1-1); however:
>   Version of kdelibs3-ssl on system is 3.0.7-4.
> dpkg: error processing kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
This happened to me several times, too.  I just kept doing "update-all"s
until all the packages got installed.  

> [blah blah blah]
> 
> 2. Can I use the KDE setup? Not required for what I want. How do I
>    start the quartz-wm. Without an .xinitrc I just get TWM and nothing
>    shows up as a running app in the top window bar. When I run startx
>    and exit out of the console window in TWM everything closes anyhow.

What do you mean by "use the KDE setup"? 

In your .xinitrc you should call "quartz-wm" instead of twm, if you want
to run Apple X. 

One thing to note is that there's no fullscreen mode--rootless only. 

> 
> 3. How can I get an X app icon back in Applications and in the Dock. I
>    don't think I should have to run startx from the terminal. 

There's an app called X11, which is what you get instead of XDarwin.

> 
> Here is what happens with startx. 
> [broomstick:~] josh% startx 
> 
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
> Release Date: 3 September 2002
>         If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware
>       is
>         newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
>         reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> Operating System: Darwin OSVendor
> Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping.
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> PseudoramiX screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0).
> PseudoramiX screen 0 placed at X11 coordinate (0,0).
> [DRI] screen 0 installation complete
> Screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0)
> cat: /Users/josh/.Xauthority: No such file or directory

Try 'touch /Users/josh/.Xauthority' to create this file.

> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> > Error:            Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
> >                   Exiting
> >                   Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> > Error:            Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
> >                   Exiting
> >                   Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> > Error:            Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
> >                   Exiting
> >                   Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
> 
> waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken
> (explicit kill or server shutdown).
> Quitting XDarwin...
> 
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> Josh Kuperman
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