On 2/8/07, Paul Fons wrote:
>
> I am a little frustrated now that packages such as gnuplot (which is
> a very useful package -- thank you) require installation of an
> problem causing  TeX package that is only required for internal
> documentation generation.

Gnuplot developers would wellcome any testers of the new 4.2 version for mac ;)

But yes, my first experince with problems with fink was exactly that
one. (I somehow managed to install system-tetex though, but it took a
while ...)

> I don't think moving fink's position on
> the path list is a good idea as it will only cause problems with
> incompatible versions of things interacting -- e.g. it will lead to
> the exact problems that fink was created to address!

I now have
   gwTeX's binaries > /sw > all the rest

On 2/8/07, David R. Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 7, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> > On 2/7/07, Jens Noeckel wrote:

> > But the problem is that teTeX is old. For very basic LaTeX usage (with
> > no advanced packages) that's not a problem at all, but for ConTeXt
> > users it's indeed useless to have the ConTeXt version which is two
> > years old. (For my everyday work I need - and really need - at least
> > the version from November 2006. When I request a new feature or
> > contribute something, I usually get an answer in a few hours, at most
> > two days, and that means that I cannot compile my documents with any
> > older version any more.)
> >
> > Mojca
>
> Mojca,
>
> I understand that you and other ConTeXt users have a problem.  This
> must be a common problem on many platforms, right?

MikTeX on windows is pretty up-to-date (newest packages, although
binaries may be up to one year old), W32TeX for Windows sometimes
updates packages even before "official release", gwTeX on Mac is
excellent (automatic update of ConTeXt beta within a day), although
with a bit unpredictable feature, Debian has already created new
packages based on TeXLive. Hans also provides his own ("latex-free")
minimal distributions. It doesn't necessary work out-of-the box, as
LaTeX does, but it's OK.

> After all, my
> understanding is that the major linux distributions have also been
> reluctant to abandon tetex (which, as others have pointed out, is not
> actually very old is has the advantage of being extremely stable).

True.

> What are ConTeXt users doing there?

Everything that can be printed (not necessary on paper), published as
PDF or used for a presentation ... The major difference with LaTeX is
the ease of manipulation with layout.

But to answer both at the same time (sorry for being slightly off-topic):

This is what ConTeXt users are doing with gnuplot:
    http://dl.contextgarden.net/misc/enhancedtext.pdf
in contrast to the default gnuplot behaviour:
    http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo_4.3/enhancedtext.html

But it seems that addons which enable that will have to wait for
another couple of years - they're a bit reluctant to add new things :(
There's always a price one has to pay in exchange for stability.

Mojca

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