At 11:53 PM -0500 4/5/04, Greg Jacobs wrote:
> At 02:01 PM 4/5/2004, you wrote:
>
>> Strictly put, the felon is not allowed to "possess" firearms.   That means
>> that the answer to your last question is a strong NO, as touching,
>> handling, etc. firearms is considered possession.
>
> Interesting - possession, then, is defined as somehow being in physical
>control?

Or potential physical control.  In other words, physically handling a gun
is always possession, but being able to access a gun is also possession
even though you are not accessing it currently.

>> Everything less than that falls into a gray enforcement area.  G. Gordon
>>Liddy  famously joked to his listening audience that as a convicted
>>felon, he was not allowed to possess firearms, but his wife had a
>>magnificent collection and "some of them are stored on my side of the
>>bed."
>
> Which, to me, is the ultimate insanity in this matter.  Are we to suppose
>that he never touched them?

Actually, we don't know if he was telling the truth, or just thumbing his
nose at the government on the air.  My suspicion is that in real life he
was doing both, and was under no illusions that the arrangement he was
describing was in any way legal.  I believe he recognized it as
unenforceable, or at least unlikely to be enforced.

>> (As a non-citizen and not a felon, he was NOT forbidden to possess or
>>use handguns on private property, which made this workable.)
>
> Why is this not applicable to a felon?  It's a charade, anyway.  Joe
>Dokes gets out of the Federal system, for a white collar crime/felony of
>whatever sort...

My personal opinion is that the country took a wrong turn by abandoning the
philosophy of restoring full rights to criminals who have served their
time.  I also feel there ought to be a brighter line drawn between the
penalties for violent and nonviolent crimes, not to mention between mala in
se and mala prohibita crimes.  Neither opinion is relevant on a list that
deals with the operation and behavior of current constitutional and
statutory law.

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I think the only thing we can do is reveal the truth. Politicians aren't very good at 
doing that, they are demagogues. So I really haven't gotten into the right profession 
to deliver truth.
--CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL
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