Apologies to Oklahoma or to Omaha?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Brink Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Correction: "security guards" and malls... Correction: Oklahoma should be Omaha. My apologies >I'm surprised there has been no talk about the >recent shootings on the list, be it the mall in >Oklahoma or the churches in CO. The media is >calling the shooter that stopped the BG in CO as >a "security guard." > >It's really semantics here. She was an ex LEO >(actually fired from the job I have read, but >that's here nor thereŠ) about a decade ago, and >was a non-paid volunteer at the church who has a >CCW. Thus, is she a "security officer" or a >simple CCW holder who helps out with security? >Proponents of CCW are going to claim the latter. > >The media and anti CCW types will hang on the >fact she was ex LEO (and are claiming she was >"highly trained") and a "security guard" or >"security personnel" because they loath to >actually admit a civilian with a CCW who was >there as a non paid volunteer to help guard the >church after the earlier shooting, took out a BG, >prevented many deaths, and proved armed people >make a positive difference. > >If anyone has facts that counter the above, by >all means correct me. So far, the above is what >I have gathered so far. > >Now, compare the above outcome to the church he >stopped at prior to this one, or the mall >shooting the week before. > >Below are some comments pulled from a write-up by >a guy who was not far from the shooter at the >mall. It's a long read, but interesting. A few >key comments of note he makes in his write up: > > >"Honestly, and as God as my witness, when I saw >him shooting and as watched for a few seconds >trying to figure out what he was going to do and >what I should do, the thought that when through >my mind was, "If I had a gun, I have a perfect >shot." > >And > >"When I realized that I had no gun, fear >instantly struck me, along with anger, and severe >panic." > >And > >"I have completed the training class, but I keep >putting off applying for the permit because I >think it is useless. In the places I would need a >gun most, I am not allowed to have it. I will not >be a person living in fear and not go to Van Maur >because they don't allow guns." > >And > >"I am very angry at the city of Omaha and the >mall for their stupid laws that nearly cost me my >life. The laws protected no one, and in my >opinion, caused people to die." > > >For those who wish to read this first hand account, I found it here: > >http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=322156 > > >So, we have "real world" comparisons to what >happens when an armed civilian is on scene to >respond to such a situation vs what happens when >the only armed person there is the BG, which >reflects the data that exists perfectly. It's not >rocket science folks, but some sure make it seem >that wayŠ > > >-- >Sincerely, > >Author and industry consultant, Will Brink @ www.BrinkZone.com > >Free articles, free ebook, and other stuff of >interest to fitness enthusiasts, see my site at: > >http://www.brinkzone.com/ > >Remember, "Great spirits have always encountered >violent opposition from mediocre >minds." -- Einstein >_______________________________________________ >To post, send message to [email protected] >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or >get password, see >http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof > >Please note that messages sent to this large >list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can >subscribe to the list and read messages that are >posted; people can read the Web archives; and >list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward >the messages to others. -- Sincerely, Author and industry consultant, Will Brink @ www.BrinkZone.com Free articles, free ebook, and other stuff of interest to fitness enthusiasts, see my site at: http://www.brinkzone.com/ Remember, "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -- Einstein _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
