>
> re:
>
>> *The Right Not to Keep or Bear Arms 
>> <http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1946885>
>>> *
>>> *Stanford Law Review, Vol. 64, 2012*
>>> Joseph 
>>> Blocher<http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=734237>
>>>
>>
>   It's "interesting". Details seem to be "spun" - e.g.
> 40 - 50% of US homes own a firearm, that's 120 - 150 million people
> http://www.americanfirearms.org/statistics.php#5
>
> *A new Gallup poll of self-reported gun ownership shows that 47% of
> American adults have a 
> firearm<http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/Self-Reported-Gun-Ownership-Highest-1993.aspx>
>  somewhere
> in their household, *
> *
> http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/10/29/american-gun-ownership-at-highest-level-in-almost-20-years/
> *
> *
> *
> yet the paper says, "a large majority of Americans choose not to keep
> guns in their homes." (p 103 citing a Philip J. Cook, et al paper)
>
>   As to working against the right not to keep/bear,  "But some
> legislatures are now contemplating or even doing something quite different:
> engaging in what might be called “antigun control” and superseding private
> ordering by making it difficult or illegal for private parties to keep guns
> out of their homes, off their property, and other- wise out of their actual
> or constructive possession. Perhaps most radically, some have proposed or
> enacted laws requiring citizens to keep guns in their homes." (p 105)  The
> footnote for this refers to
>
> "Mandatory gun possession is not widespread, but some communities have
> either proposed or passed laws embracing it. Kennesaw, Georgia, is the most
> famous example—it requires all citizens to keep guns and ammunition in
> their homes.188 Similar laws have been passed in towns in Idaho, Kansas,
> Pennsylvania, and Utah." (p 137)
>
> The author doesn't note any exemptions to those laws - my memory is that
> the Kennesaw law did have exemptions - and I found:
> "Jones said the ACLU challenged the law in a federal court just after it
> was passed. In response, the city added a clause adding conscientious
> objectors to the list of those exempt."
> http://www.rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm
> The author implies there are no exemptions: "So long as the laws are
> strictly symbolic and people are not actually threatened with punishment
> for failing to keep guns in their homes, then one could argue that the
> right to defend oneself by not possessing weapons has not been infringed."
> (p 139)
>
> Back to right not to keep/bear - "Many others have adopted “forced entry”
> or “bring your gun to work” laws, which require private parties—usually
> businesses—to allow guns on their property." (p 105)
> Which raises a legal terminology question (which I'd like someone to
> answer) - if a customer or worker is on business premises - does the
> business (or its owner) have possession or constructive possession?
>
> The tone of the article seems, to me, to be figuring out how businesses
> and property owners can exclude concealed carry from their premises - but
> the author says, "The purpose of this Article is to test the strengths
> and weaknesses of an idea, not to advocate without qualification for the
> recognition of a new constitutional right."  (p 107)
>
> That's all I'm going to discuss from now.  I'm still thinking about this
> article.
>
> --henry schaffer
>
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