I shall retract my above comment. I had overlooked the article's hyperlink between paragraphs, and only had observed before the hyperlink to the USC.
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Laska <[email protected]>wrote: > While I agree this is a frightening aspect, and potentially conflict under > Posse Comitatus, I note that the authority referred to in the article is > 10USC18, which, as US Code, is action taken by those elected officials who > comprise the Congress, and thence approved by the President, NOT a > regulation promulgated by DOD as a CFR which would have affect on all > Americans, or a DoD/DA/etc. regulation which would only have effect on > uniform members of service and employees of service. Not that it is less > frightening, but that blame must be placed where it squarely belongs - > Congress and the President. > > > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM, > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Send Firearmsregprof mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Firearmsregprof digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Not good (Olson, Joseph E.) >> 2. Re: Not good (Joe Waldron) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:49:53 -0500 >> From: "Olson, Joseph E." <[email protected]> >> To: "Firearms Reg, List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Not good >> Message-ID: >> < >> caomejo6qtly4-ss3qvzuvzboz8cxtee3bqdktyfcmbs-kqz...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> This reminds me of the Soviet tanks rumbling into the streets of Budapest >> in 1956 (when I lived in West Germany). >> >> [snip] ...The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was >> introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By making a >> few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled ?Defense >> Support >> of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies? the military has quietly granted >> itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or >> state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than >> two centuries. The most objectionable aspect of the regulatory change is >> the inclusion of vague language that permits military intervention in the >> event of ?civil disturbances.? According to the rule: ?Federal military >> commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances >> where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly >> constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to >> engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, >> unexpected civil disturbances.? ? ( I notice an apparent anomaly in this >> excerpt: The United Sates Code [USC] is composed of *statutes* ? enacted >> by >> Congress. Agency *regulations* are often part of the United States Code >> of >> Federal Regulations [CFR]. Then there are such compendia as Army >> Regulations, etc.). [snip] >> >> >> http://www.longislandpress.com/2013/05/14/u-s-military-power-grab-goes-into-effect/ >> >> ************************************************************************************************************** >> Professor Joseph Olson, J.D.(*Hon*. Duke), LL.M.(*Tax*. Florida) >> o 651-523-2142 >> Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) >> f 651-523-2236 >> St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 >> c 612-865-7956 >> [email protected] >> http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/private/firearmsregprof/attachments/20130517/d2667059/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 15:35:37 -0500 >> From: Joe Waldron <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Not good >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" >> >> The handwriting has been on the wall since 2002, when the U.S. Northern >> Command, a combatant command, was formed in the aftermath of 9/11. But >> it's been coming even before that. See Kopel & Blackman's work in "No >> More Wacos." >> >> >> >> On 5/17/2013 2:49 PM, Olson, Joseph E. wrote: >> > >> > This reminds me of the Soviet tanks rumbling into the streets of >> > Budapest in 1956 (when I lived in West Germany). >> > >> > [snip] ...The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was >> > introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By >> > making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled >> > "Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies" the military >> > has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without >> > obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has >> > been in place for more than two centuries. The most objectionable >> > aspect of the regulatory change is the inclusion of vague language >> > that permits military intervention in the event of "civil >> > disturbances." According to the rule: "Federal military commanders >> > have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where >> > prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly >> > constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to >> > engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell >> > large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances." ... ( I notice an >> > apparent anomaly in this excerpt: The United Sates Code [USC] is >> > composed of /statutes/ -- enacted by Congress. Agency >> > /regulations/ are often part of the United States Code of Federal >> > Regulations [CFR]. Then there are such compendia as Army Regulations, >> > etc.). [snip] >> > >> > >> http://www.longislandpress.com/2013/05/14/u-s-military-power-grab-goes-into-effect/ >> > >> > >> ************************************************************************************************************** >> > Professor Joseph Olson, J.D.(/Hon/. Duke), LL.M.(/Tax/. Florida) >> > o 651-523-2142 >> > Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) >> > f 651-523-2236 >> > St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 >> > c 612-865-7956 >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To post, send message to [email protected] >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see >> http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof >> > >> > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as >> private. 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