Professor Olson, Traffic stops are far from a conclusive indicator as to police homicide. As a single type of call, disturbances have always been called the most dangerous aspect of the job. But this is only as to homicide of police officers. Overall violence against police would be best determined by examining the UCR statistics for arrests for Resisting Arrest with Violence; this is the most likely crime to be charged when an officer is injured short of killed (noting that many minor physical injuries are downgraded by arresting officers themselves to R/A without violence). Danger must also be measured as to other forms of harm, to be consistent with all other occupations. Injuries and deaths from traffic wrecks must be factored in. Officers are exposed to many debilitating and even mortal diseases; in the early to mid-1980s HIV/AIDS was a significant factor, until protective procedures were established. Hepatitis, tuberculosis, and other debilitating or fatal diseases also harm many officers. Falls and similar accidental injuries are often encountered, due to the work locations of police. Crime scenes, debilitated buildings, woodlands, etc. all present dangers officers encounter. Paul R. LaskaSgt. (Ret.) Martin County Sheriff's Office, FL
> From: [email protected] > Subject: Firearmsregprof Digest, Vol 123, Issue 4 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:00:06 -0800 > > Send Firearmsregprof mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Firearmsregprof digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. The S. Ct's assumption is wrong: police work not among the > top 10 dangerous jobs. (Olson, Joseph E.) > 2. Police work seems to have 12 times the baseline occupational > homicide rate (Volokh, Eugene) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:34:09 -0600 > From: "Olson, Joseph E." <[email protected]> > To: "Firearms Reg, List" <[email protected]> > Subject: The S. Ct's assumption is wrong: police work not among the > top 10 dangerous jobs. > Message-ID: > <CAOMEJo5re9QxXJO+haeo5EkDEgzaGYvrWedqDO5G=ygufzo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > *Low-end estimate of traffic stops (sixty million)* Based on the low-end > estimate of traffic encounters, the risk of homicide during a traffic stop > ranged from a low of one in ten million in 1988 and 1990 to a high of one > in 4.6 million in 1991. On average, over a ten-year period, the risk of > homicide to a police officer during a traffic encounter was *one in 6.7 > million [stops]*. > The ??danger ratio?? of police assaults in traffic stop situations ranged > from a low of one police officer assault in 13,847 stops in 1996 to a high > of one police officer assault in 8,274 stops in 1992. On average, over a > ten-year period, the risk of assault to a police officer during a traffic > encounter was *one in 10,256 stops*. > > *How dangerous are routine police?citizen traffic stops? A research note.* > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.lib.umn.edu%2Fjbs%2FCriminal%2520Procedure%2520in%2520American%2520Society%2FOfficersAssaulted.pdf&ei=c0d5VKmhKIfHsQTNhICwAw&usg=AFQjCNE-BeckdvZZEUAWgO6k3wICkfOHIg&bvm=bv.80642063,d.cWc&cad=rja > > 27 police officers suffered a felonious death in 2013 per FBI Stats. Ten > year average is nearer 50. > http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2013-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-and-assaulted > > > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Professor (Emeritus) Joseph Olson, J.D.(*Honors,* Duke) > o 651-523-2518 > Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) > f 651-523-2236 > St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 > *c 612-865-7956 <612-865-7956>* > [email protected] <[email protected]> > http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/private/firearmsregprof/attachments/20141128/08e5addb/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:09:51 -0800 > From: "Volokh, Eugene" <[email protected]> > To: "Firearms Reg, List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Police work seems to have 12 times the baseline occupational > homicide rate > Message-ID: > <e7aaec684f9e3641b8cfc2b9a0bd965a0284402bb...@uclawe2k7.lawnet.lcl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I?m not sure that homicides per traffic stop are the relevant > data point for determining whether police work is one of the most ?dangerous > jobs? ? just as we probably wouldn?t measure the dangerousness of, say, > commercial fishing (from accidents, not homicides) on a per-fish-caught or > even per-net-pulled-up basis. The better measure, I would think, is the risk > of homicide per year, not the risk of homicide per stop. > > And that risk of homicide per year for police officers does seem to be > considerably higher than the risk for a typical worker. In 2013, the > occupational homicide rate for police officers (though not limited to traffic > stops) was apparently 3.33 per 100,000 (26/780,000); the occupational > homicide rate for the workforce at large was 0.27 per 100,000 (397 per > 145,000,000). See http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0282.pdf; > http://www.bls.gov/ooh/protective-service/police-and-detectives.htm; > http://www.dlt.ri.gov/lmi/laus/us/usadj.htm. Even if one looks at the motor > vehicle stop homicide data alone, which averages 9 per year over the period > used (1988 to 1997), that still yields a homicide rate from traffic stops > alone that is more than 4 times the total occupational homicide rate for the > workforce at large. Or am I missing something? > > Eugene > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olson, Joseph E. > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 8:34 PM > To: Firearms Reg, List > Subject: The S. Ct's assumption is wrong: police work not among the top 10 > dangerous jobs. > > Low-end estimate of traffic stops (sixty million) Based on the low-end > estimate of traffic encounters, the risk of homicide during a traffic stop > ranged from a low of one in ten million in 1988 and 1990 to a high of one in > 4.6 million in 1991. On average, over a ten-year period, the risk of homicide > to a police officer during a traffic encounter was one in 6.7 million [stops]. > The ??danger ratio?? of police assaults in traffic stop situations ranged > from a low of one police officer assault in 13,847 stops in 1996 to a high of > one police officer assault in 8,274 stops in 1992. On average, over a > ten-year period, the risk of assault to a police officer during a traffic > encounter was one in 10,256 stops. > > How dangerous are routine police?citizen traffic stops? A research note. > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.lib.umn.edu%2Fjbs%2FCriminal%2520Procedure%2520in%2520American%2520Society%2FOfficersAssaulted.pdf&ei=c0d5VKmhKIfHsQTNhICwAw&usg=AFQjCNE-BeckdvZZEUAWgO6k3wICkfOHIg&bvm=bv.80642063,d.cWc&cad=rja > > 27 police officers suffered a felonious death in 2013 per FBI Stats. Ten > year average is nearer 50. > http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2013-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-and-assaulted > > > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Professor (Emeritus) Joseph Olson, J.D.(Honors, Duke) > o 651-523-2518<tel:651-523-2518> > Hamline University School of Law (MS-D2037) > f 651-523-2236<tel:651-523-2236> > St. Paul, MN 55113-1235 > c 612-865-7956<tel:612-865-7956> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > http://law.hamline.edu/constitutional_law/joseph_olson.html > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/private/firearmsregprof/attachments/20141128/b3045d4b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Firearmsregprof mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. 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