I'll leave it to you to decide how any of this conforms to the variations and 
permutations of the "standard model."  
Bob Spitzer

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            "The descriptions and quotes below describe pretty well the militia
        view -- i.e. that the Second Amendment protects a right to keep and bear
        arms in connection with citizen service in a government organized and
        regulated militia."
        
            My question was more about how either of those two papers could be
        said to conflict with the Standard Model expounded by Rawle, Story,
        Cooley, and the majority of modern scholars, than it was about asking
        Prof. Spitzer to say that the "militia view" encompasses any
        interpretation that mentions any connection at all to the militia.
        
        Under this broad interpretation almost all Standard Model papers can be
        said to "adopt the militia view," since Standard Modelers, such as the
        1874 paper's authors, are nearly unanimous in their agreement that
        weapons that are not normally used by soldiers are not the type of
        "arms" referenced in the Second Amendment.
        

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