Hi,

Well, if removing dialect 1 in FB 3.0 is NOT out of question, I'm 
strongly for its removal (not just deprecation) in 3.0. While some may 
object that it's:

a) violation of our deprecation policy.
b) not advance enough notification to give users time to adapt.

I would like point out that:

a) There is no "project manifest" or "development contract" at our 
website that would codify such deprecation policy. It's just convenient 
routine we decided to follow. So we're not bound to follow it to the 
letter, as there is no such letter and never was.

b) If we will announce the removal of dialect 1 support now, users of 
dialect 1 planning to switch to FB 3.0 will have at least 1.5 years to 
adapt their applications (for early adoption) and about 5-7 years as 
final deadline (when support of last FB version having dialect 1 would 
be discontinued by *project*). IMHO plenty of time.

We should also take into account the impact factor of such move:

a) It's mostly about pre-IB 6.0 applications that were not adapted to 
dialect 3 since then. How many such apps do you think it's still out 
there? Up to 0.01% ?

b) All new applications since IB 6.0 / FB 1.0 are dialect 3 
applications, with very very few exception (if there are any at all).

So negative impact would be to very small fraction of FB users, while 
positive impact would affect the rest.

Over all 12 years of FB development it became clear that *remaining* 
dialect 1 users simply can't switch at all (old legacy app, they 
certainly switch with new app. versions), so giving them another 2 years 
inserting deprecation version before removal will not help them in any 
significant way.

So in my opinion it's ok to announce the removal of dialect 1 in 3.0 
NOW, and do it. Especially when 3.0 is (and was) presented for long time 
as Firebird "reborn" version (new ODS, new API, new architecture etc.) 
and a potential deal-breaker for legacy stuff.

best regards
Pavel Cisar
IBPhoenix

Dne 31.10.2012 10:02, Dmitry Yemanov napsal(a):
>
> Sorry, I had intended to write:
>
> "That said, I'm NOT against the idea in general"
>
> as it should obviously be wiped out sooner rather than later. But this
> is exactly the case when my personal humble opinion conflicts with the
> management one. But let's hear other opinions as well, I'm not a
> dictator ;-)

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