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Hello, Larry,
Should battery cables be replaced periodically to ensure good connections?  I 
don't know how old mine are.  Thanks!

David



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From: Larry *.* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: First Generation Firebird-L <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:59:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FGF] lights flickering

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You could have worn out brushes in your alternator, a bad diode assembly in the 
alternator, a bad voltage regulator or bad grounds.  Bad grounds can cause the 
diode assembly to short in the alternator.  That would be my number one suspect 
from your description.
 
Your missing ground to the fender is important, so replace it.  You can buy a 
correct cable from Ames Performance or others to restore it.  There are also 
several grounding straps from the subframe to the body of the car.  These are 
important to and people often leave them out or leave them dangling when they 
remove an engine or subframe for any reason.  These grounds prevent starter 
currents and charging currents from traveling through the bearings in the 
transmission output shaft etc.  Bearings can be damaged when high currents are 
unintentionally passed through them.  These ground also prevent the back EMF of 
the starter from popping the alternator diodes.  The connections from the 
battery to the starter have to be corrosion-free and solid so the battery 
suppresses the transients.  The car frame, alternator wiring and wiring harness 
should not be part of the starter current path and vice versa.
 
Hugo suggested you take the alternator to one of the auto parts places and let 
them test it.  I think that is an excellent idea that will save you time.  If 
they find the alternator is bad, you can repair it youself.  The brushes and 
the diode array are both available as repair parts.  So is the bearing set.  
These are easily swapped out.  It is very seldom that one finds a problem with 
the alternator windings, so you can just about count on swapping these parts to 
restore your alternator is it tests bad.  Or you can do the exchange for 
rebuilt.  I like to keep my orignial parts.  You can troublshoot the brushes by 
inspection.  If they are worn down, they need to be replaced.  The diode can be 
tested with an ohm meter or for $15 you can just put in a new one.
 
You can remove the lid from the regulator and inspect it.  If the contacts are 
burned, you can touch them up with an ignition file.  If they are not damaged, 
don't file on good contacts.  There are also two wire wound resistors on the 
back.  You can measure them with an ohm meter.  You can check the coils for 
continuity.   If they coils and the resistors read through with a low 
resistance, they are okay.  You are really only looking for open circuited 
parts in this check.  
 
I would recommend repairing all your missing grounds as your next step.  You 
mention the fender ground is missing, so fix that one.  If this is a 67/68 
check the ground wire from the screw on the side of the regulator to the ring 
terminal grounding it to the core support.  There is another wiring harness 
ground connection to the core support in front of the battery a few inches from 
the 12 volt junction block.  There is another wiring harness to core support 
ground two inches from the regulator.  I can email you photos if you can't find 
these connections.
 
 If you do have a blown diode array in the alternator, you could well pop the 
next one if you don't correct the missing ground(s).  So even if you have a bad 
alternator, be sure to correct the grounding situation.
 
Larry


--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Michael Hershey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Michael Hershey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FGF] lights flickering
To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 11:22 PM

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My bird has now taken to having the headlights and interior lights (when on)
flicker while the car is running - both in drive as well as while in park
and idling.
It stoppped this behavior briefly the other night then resumed again after
about five minutes.

Additionally when I press on the brake, the instrument lamps dim

Is this the result of a bad ground, bad voltage regulator (i had the
charging system tested and it checked out ok), or other?

My battery is not grounded to the fender - just hte neg cable to the block -
would this help?

Also if its a bad ground - how the heck to I chase this down - any tips on
where to start?

thanks

michael





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