Sebo,

That is correct behavior, you have the setups reversed. Example 1 only 
works with Firebug and FireQuery enabled. Example 2 only works with them 
disabled.

I am sending a message to the developer, because it really is only an issue 
with FireQuery. Firebug works perfectly well.



On Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:36:56 AM UTC-4, Sebo wrote:
>
> Don't know, if my message got eaten by Google groups. Seems you also had 
> some problems with this already. :-)
>
> Actually testing example 1 on a fresh profile (without Firebug or 
> FireQuery) also doesn't work for me. In the error console I see:
>
> Error: TypeError: this.jsp is undefined
> Source File: http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/js/sweets.fb.js
> Line: 229
>
> Example 2 is working for me (having Firebug enabled, but not having 
> FireQuery installed). If there are conflicts with FireQuery, you should 
> contact 
> BinaryAge <http://support.binaryage.com/> (the author of FireQuery).
>
> Sebastian
>
> On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11:51 PM UTC+2, djad33 wrote:
>>
>> Actually, it is NOT Firebug alone. It is Firebug with FireQuery. 
>> Disabling FireQuery does the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:19:34 PM UTC-4, djad33 wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had a number of problems with javascript (using jQuery) and 
>>> Firefox the past few months. These errors were not occurring in any other 
>>> browser (IE7, IE8, IE9, Chrome or Safari). They have been generally related 
>>> to scoping in that existing objects were turning up 'unidentified' in 
>>> console. I could navigate through the DOM and find them, just not where 
>>> they were supposed to be. This has plagued me on 3 projects, with different 
>>> jQuery plugins. The latest incident was using jQuery.validate.js and 
>>> created an error 'validator is undefined'. In the process of trying to 
>>> solve this issue, I created a single field form with nothing else in the 
>>> HTML other than the page script and the links to jQuery and 
>>> jquery.validate.min.js.
>>>
>>> In my testing, I had success using FF9, 10 and 11 from Spoon.net. It was 
>>> then I realized none of those versions were running Firebug like I do on 
>>> the version of 11 installed on my Mac.
>>>
>>> Disabling Firebug solved the problem completely with jquery.validate.js. 
>>> So I began to wonder about the other projects that had given me problems. I 
>>> went back to the old code and removed the changes I made to accommodate for 
>>> Firefox and everything worked.
>>>
>>> Example 1 - With Firebug enabled, this works:
>>> http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/index.fb.html
>>>
>>> Example 2 - Firebug Disabled, this works:
>>> http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/index.html
>>>
>>> Disable Firebug on example 1 and it fails. Enable on Example 2 and it 
>>> fails.
>>>
>>> The particular issue here is the object data. 
>>>
>>> The correct and recommended method (used in Example 2) is:
>>>     apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('jsp')); 
>>>
>>> The method I had to use to get it to work (as I was developing in FF 
>>> with FB):
>>>     $.browser.mozilla ?
>>>         apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('data.jsp'))
>>>         : apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('jsp'));
>>>
>>> Using the recommended method would cause a failure when I tried to 
>>> access the stored data:
>>>     $.each(apis, function(i) {
>>>       * this.destroy();*
>>>     });
>>>
>>> The altered version:
>>>     $.each(apis, function(i) {
>>>         $.browser.mozilla ? this.*jsp*.destroy() : this.destroy();
>>>     });
>>>
>>> I do not make any claim to be a programming Ninja or expert at all. I've 
>>> been more than willing to accept that the failures were mine. However, 
>>>  disabling Firebug has eliminated all javascript errors on the 2 projects 
>>> I've tested. The pages function as they were designed to. I'm hopeful that 
>>> this helps others that might be dealing with similar issues where a script 
>>> is inexplicably failing solely in Firefox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
On Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:36:56 AM UTC-4, Sebo wrote:
>
> Don't know, if my message got eaten by Google groups. Seems you also had 
> some problems with this already. :-)
>
> Actually testing example 1 on a fresh profile (without Firebug or 
> FireQuery) also doesn't work for me. In the error console I see:
>
> Error: TypeError: this.jsp is undefined
> Source File: http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/js/sweets.fb.js
> Line: 229
>
> Example 2 is working for me (having Firebug enabled, but not having 
> FireQuery installed). If there are conflicts with FireQuery, you should 
> contact 
> BinaryAge <http://support.binaryage.com/> (the author of FireQuery).
>
> Sebastian
>
> On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11:51 PM UTC+2, djad33 wrote:
>>
>> Actually, it is NOT Firebug alone. It is Firebug with FireQuery. 
>> Disabling FireQuery does the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:19:34 PM UTC-4, djad33 wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had a number of problems with javascript (using jQuery) and 
>>> Firefox the past few months. These errors were not occurring in any other 
>>> browser (IE7, IE8, IE9, Chrome or Safari). They have been generally related 
>>> to scoping in that existing objects were turning up 'unidentified' in 
>>> console. I could navigate through the DOM and find them, just not where 
>>> they were supposed to be. This has plagued me on 3 projects, with different 
>>> jQuery plugins. The latest incident was using jQuery.validate.js and 
>>> created an error 'validator is undefined'. In the process of trying to 
>>> solve this issue, I created a single field form with nothing else in the 
>>> HTML other than the page script and the links to jQuery and 
>>> jquery.validate.min.js.
>>>
>>> In my testing, I had success using FF9, 10 and 11 from Spoon.net. It was 
>>> then I realized none of those versions were running Firebug like I do on 
>>> the version of 11 installed on my Mac.
>>>
>>> Disabling Firebug solved the problem completely with jquery.validate.js. 
>>> So I began to wonder about the other projects that had given me problems. I 
>>> went back to the old code and removed the changes I made to accommodate for 
>>> Firefox and everything worked.
>>>
>>> Example 1 - With Firebug enabled, this works:
>>> http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/index.fb.html
>>>
>>> Example 2 - Firebug Disabled, this works:
>>> http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/index.html
>>>
>>> Disable Firebug on example 1 and it fails. Enable on Example 2 and it 
>>> fails.
>>>
>>> The particular issue here is the object data. 
>>>
>>> The correct and recommended method (used in Example 2) is:
>>>     apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('jsp')); 
>>>
>>> The method I had to use to get it to work (as I was developing in FF 
>>> with FB):
>>>     $.browser.mozilla ?
>>>         apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('data.jsp'))
>>>         : apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('jsp'));
>>>
>>> Using the recommended method would cause a failure when I tried to 
>>> access the stored data:
>>>     $.each(apis, function(i) {
>>>       * this.destroy();*
>>>     });
>>>
>>> The altered version:
>>>     $.each(apis, function(i) {
>>>         $.browser.mozilla ? this.*jsp*.destroy() : this.destroy();
>>>     });
>>>
>>> I do not make any claim to be a programming Ninja or expert at all. I've 
>>> been more than willing to accept that the failures were mine. However, 
>>>  disabling Firebug has eliminated all javascript errors on the 2 projects 
>>> I've tested. The pages function as they were designed to. I'm hopeful that 
>>> this helps others that might be dealing with similar issues where a script 
>>> is inexplicably failing solely in Firefox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
On Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:36:56 AM UTC-4, Sebo wrote:
>
> Don't know, if my message got eaten by Google groups. Seems you also had 
> some problems with this already. :-)
>
> Actually testing example 1 on a fresh profile (without Firebug or 
> FireQuery) also doesn't work for me. In the error console I see:
>
> Error: TypeError: this.jsp is undefined
> Source File: http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/js/sweets.fb.js
> Line: 229
>
> Example 2 is working for me (having Firebug enabled, but not having 
> FireQuery installed). If there are conflicts with FireQuery, you should 
> contact 
> BinaryAge <http://support.binaryage.com/> (the author of FireQuery).
>
> Sebastian
>
> On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:11:51 PM UTC+2, djad33 wrote:
>>
>> Actually, it is NOT Firebug alone. It is Firebug with FireQuery. 
>> Disabling FireQuery does the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:19:34 PM UTC-4, djad33 wrote:
>>>
>>> I have had a number of problems with javascript (using jQuery) and 
>>> Firefox the past few months. These errors were not occurring in any other 
>>> browser (IE7, IE8, IE9, Chrome or Safari). They have been generally related 
>>> to scoping in that existing objects were turning up 'unidentified' in 
>>> console. I could navigate through the DOM and find them, just not where 
>>> they were supposed to be. This has plagued me on 3 projects, with different 
>>> jQuery plugins. The latest incident was using jQuery.validate.js and 
>>> created an error 'validator is undefined'. In the process of trying to 
>>> solve this issue, I created a single field form with nothing else in the 
>>> HTML other than the page script and the links to jQuery and 
>>> jquery.validate.min.js.
>>>
>>> In my testing, I had success using FF9, 10 and 11 from Spoon.net. It was 
>>> then I realized none of those versions were running Firebug like I do on 
>>> the version of 11 installed on my Mac.
>>>
>>> Disabling Firebug solved the problem completely with jquery.validate.js. 
>>> So I began to wonder about the other projects that had given me problems. I 
>>> went back to the old code and removed the changes I made to accommodate for 
>>> Firefox and everything worked.
>>>
>>> Example 1 - With Firebug enabled, this works:
>>> http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/index.fb.html
>>>
>>> Example 2 - Firebug Disabled, this works:
>>> http://mgh.bigheadservices.com/sweets/v7/index.html
>>>
>>> Disable Firebug on example 1 and it fails. Enable on Example 2 and it 
>>> fails.
>>>
>>> The particular issue here is the object data. 
>>>
>>> The correct and recommended method (used in Example 2) is:
>>>     apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('jsp')); 
>>>
>>> The method I had to use to get it to work (as I was developing in FF 
>>> with FB):
>>>     $.browser.mozilla ?
>>>         apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('data.jsp'))
>>>         : apis.push($(this).jScrollPane({showArrows: true, innerArrows: 
>>> true}).data('jsp'));
>>>
>>> Using the recommended method would cause a failure when I tried to 
>>> access the stored data:
>>>     $.each(apis, function(i) {
>>>       * this.destroy();*
>>>     });
>>>
>>> The altered version:
>>>     $.each(apis, function(i) {
>>>         $.browser.mozilla ? this.*jsp*.destroy() : this.destroy();
>>>     });
>>>
>>> I do not make any claim to be a programming Ninja or expert at all. I've 
>>> been more than willing to accept that the failures were mine. However, 
>>>  disabling Firebug has eliminated all javascript errors on the 2 projects 
>>> I've tested. The pages function as they were designed to. I'm hopeful that 
>>> this helps others that might be dealing with similar issues where a script 
>>> is inexplicably failing solely in Firefox.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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