On Sunday, February 23, 2014 3:52:21 AM UTC+1, Jonas wrote:
>
> > AFAIK toolbars have not been removed, only the addon bar has.
>
> I hope you're right. I'd read various complaints (a couple of months ago, 
> I guess) on a few different online forums about Australis killing all 
> toolbars, including custom toolbars needed by extension developers... but 
> perhaps they were mistaken, or maybe Mozilla has added more flexibility. I 
> haven't experimented with Australis myself; I just assumed the complaints 
> were accurate.
>
Instead of reading the statements of others and before judging it, you 
should try it out by yourself <http://nightly.mozilla.org/> and build your 
own opinion. Custom toolbars definitely still work. I verified that right 
now by installing Web Developer. It works totally fine for me.
As Simon wrote only the Add-on bar was removed (see bug 
749804<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749804>), 
which I don't like neither (and already complained about at Mozilla like 
many other people), but at least there are add-ons like The Puzzle 
Piece<https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/the-puzzle-piece/>that bring it 
back.
But again, that's off-topic and the Firebug Working Group has no influence 
on the redesign.

>  For the second error, can you post a link to some page online where that 
>> message can be reproduced, and somewhat more detailed instructions? It 
>> sounds like it's something like Firebug trying to copy styles from the page 
>> and failing because of CSS oddities, which isn't anything to worry about at 
>> all but clearly still ought to be fixed if possible.
>>
>> I've just done a lot more experimenting, disabling various extensions and 
> themes, relaunching Mac Firefox repeatedly, etc.  I finally discovered that 
> the problem happens even with *all* extensions and themes disabled except 
> Firebug itself. So it isn't an extensions conflict.
>
Do you have *Show Chrome Errors*, *Show Chrome Messages* and *Strict 
Warnings (performance penalty)* unchecked? If not, please do so and try it 
again.
 

> I also discovered that the problem happens if the "Warnings" button is 
> enabled in the Console, but if I only have "Errors" enabled, the problem 
> goes away. So I guess I just can't use Warnings any more.
>
> By the way, can somebody explain the relationship between the choices you 
> can check in the popdown menu -- like "Show JavaScript Errors", "Show 
> JavaScript Warnings", etc. -- and the simple "All"/"Errors"/"Warnings" 
> buttons along the top of the Firebug panel? (I should explain that I run 
> Firebug in a standalone window on a separate monitor.)  At present, the 
> popdown-menu options seem to have no effect at all, although the buttons 
> work.
>
The option menu items control whether the messages are logged to the 
console at all while the filter buttons filter the messages after logging. 
Because I also think that the current UI is not perfect, I created issue 
6357 <http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=6357> and 
6358<http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=6358>as suggestions for 
improving it.
 

> I also tried to find online pages that exhibited the problem I was 
> describing, that is clicking with the "Inspect Element" tool generating 
> these weird warnings. But I discovered that on common pages such as 
> https:///www.google.com or http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ I can't even get 
> that far -- if the Warnings button is enabled, the Console panel fills up 
> with many, many warnings before I even get a chance to click anything. (Not 
> always at first load, but always on reloading those pages.)
>
 
>
I also discovered that the same version of Firefox + Firebug on Win7 
> generates different messages in general than on the Mac, looking at the 
> same pages. As I said before, the Windows version generates far fewer of 
> the weird Warnings (generally none for my own pages). But it flags some 
> things as Errors that the Mac doesn't -- for example, in a JavaScript "for 
> loop", I had started it (as I usually do) like this:   for(i=0;   and Mac 
> FF/Firebug had no problem with that, but the Windows version flagged it as 
> an undeclared variable error and stopped the page from even loading 
> further. (I easily fixed this by changing it to for(var i=0;... which seems 
> kind of picky to me, but okay.)  I was told here previously that the errors 
> may come from Firefox, and are simply displayed by Firebug, but still I 
> don't understand why Mac vs. PC would differ that way. Anyway, that's 
> fairly trivial.
>
That's surely because you have the *Strict Warnings* option checked on your 
Windows machine. Just uncheck it and you should not see these messages 
anymore.

Sebastian

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