Isn't it usually the configuration in use and not the OS that leads to
vulnerabilities?

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From: Lee, Dana-Renee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 1:09 PM
To: Ben Nagy; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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Subject: RE: Is Private Network & Internet on same FR Circuit Ok?


Here is a question no one has asked yet:

Do you want to trust a firewall on an OS as unsecurable as NT is??

Renee Lee

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Ben Nagy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Sunday, September 19, 1999 8:29 PM
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                Subject:        RE: Is Private Network & Internet on same FR
Circuit Ok?

                AFAIK There is no IOS command on normal routers (dunno about
the huge stuff)
                that will let you see the actual packet _body_. Even if one
has exec on the
                router.

                As to whether you should encrypt in this situation, I guess
it depends on
                what your data is. If it's employee ICQ, then maybe not. If
it's my medical
                records or financial transactions, then maybe you should.

                There do exist boxes that you can put on a frame relay line
that will dump
                the entire traffic. Or you can just get to the data when it
passes through
                copper / fibre somewhere. I guess the question is whether
you trust the
                security of the physical access to the data path.

                Alternatively, there may be non-Cisco routers in the cloud -
can anyone
                speak for the other brands that are around in telcos / large
ISPs? What if
                one of those gets compromised?

                You ask what the security risk is if you don't use
encryption...what is the
                downside if you do? With the hardware cards, even the baby
Ciscos will ship
                A Goodly Amount of data with 56-bit DES. Is your pipe so big
that the
                performance hit will cripple you?

                Cheers,

                --
                Ben Nagy
                Network Consultant, CPM&S Group of Companies
                PGP Key ID: 0x1A86E304  Mobile: +61 414 411 520

                >  -----Original Message-----
                > From:         Joe Ippolito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                > Sent: Monday, 20 September 1999 5:06 AM
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                > Subject:      Is Private Network & Internet on same FR
Circuit Ok?
                >
                > Another scenario with a similar concern.
                >
                >                  Internet
                >                       |
                >                       |
                >                  Router A-------PVC------Router B
                >                       |                               |
                >                       |                               |
                >       DMZ A----Firewall A             Firewall B-----DMZ B
                >                       |                               |
                >                       |                               |
                >                   Site A                          Site B
                >
                > The purpose of this configuration is to provide a
third-world site (Site
                B) tier-one Internet connectivity (not available locally)
through a large US
                site while providing intra-company connectivity between the
two sites with
                the same WAN connection.  An advantage is that site B would
retain local
                access to its own self-administered DMZ.  Both firewalls
have routable
                external addresses along with the adjacent router interface
and the Internet
                side of router A.  The PVC between Routers A and B have only
private
                addresses (e.g. 192.168.x.x.)  Both firewalls do IPSec VPN's
with many other
                sites.  Is it really necessary to do DES encryption for
communication
                between sites A and B?  What is the security risk if we do
not?  Is it
                possible to hack a Cisco router and sniff clear data
packets?
                >
                > Thanks
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