>   it is important to point out that saying look to NM3 is like saying
> look for windows 2000. what was that when was [N]ot [T]here to get there.
> c'mon enough hype more substance please.

It is also important to point out that your statement does not reflect a
summary of my arguments (not even close). I am satisfied with level of
security in our present setup. What I am looking for NM3 to provide is
further security enhancements that will allow NetMeeting to be used in many
more situations. I'm hopeful I can reduce the number of restrictions I place
on NetMeeting's use because of it's vulnerabilities. Until NM3, however, I
will be happy to use NetMeeting where I can because it provides that much
value to the company.

> anyways there are excellent more
> flexible and secure solutions that yes do cost you some money to
> buy but do protect you from lost revenue due to compromise.

You sound like someone whose had experience with data conferencing. Could
you please provide us with names for these "excellent more flexible and
secure solutions"?

> b.t.w. MOST are not aware that net(hack)meeting exists

True. A study from the Gartner Group in early 1998 said that lack of
awareness was a potential impeding factor in it's growth. At my company,
however, it has not been the case. NetMeeting has been wildly popular by all
measures.

> Sop why not
> propose a secure solution rather than on that is going to cause
> you trouble???
> the reasoning eludes me unless you simply don't care if the data is
> compromised which is a real sad state of affairs.

Oh I care. That is why I have placed some pretty severe limitations on
"Net(Hack)Meeting's" use (strange, but I have this feeling that you are
somewhat biased against anything Microsoft, might that have clouded your
judgement here?). I would encourage you to read my original arguments
regarding the use of NetMeeting. They cover both the value of NetMeeting and
the risks as well. The archive is available at:
http://www.lists.gnac.net/firewalls/mhonarc/firewalls.9903/index.html

Larry

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