On Tue, 22 Dec 1998, David Gillett wrote:

>   I got chatting at a Christmas party with the owner of a web site 
> who has twice changed ISPs because his site got hacked.  He's about 
> given up on ISPs to provide protection, and is looking to set up his 
> own server and protect it.

(Are you talking about a co-located machine, or a virtual web server setup
for multiple customers?  I'm assuming co-located...)

I'm not certain that this is something the co-locating ISP should be
responsible for.  Sure, they could provide a firewall to protect a subnet
containing customer machines, but then the customers get to trust each
other.  Better than nothing, but not fantastic.

I guess they could provide a single port per customer, but you tend to run
out of card slots fairly quickly (OK, so maybe you have a bunch o'
machines to do this, but it's looking unwieldy already)...


>   I keep seeing recommendations that HTTP servers should be in the 
> DMZ, but I'm not clear on WHY.  Is this, perhaps, to protect the 
> machines on the internal net from a compromised HTTP server?  In this 

Yup - that sounds like a good reason.  Public web servers generally have a
different security profile to internal file servers.

> case, there wouldn't *be* any "rest" to protect.
>   My inclination is to suggest a proxy machine as firewall, supplied 
> with content from the "real" server behind it.  But maybe there's a 

Of course, you could always run a secure OS and web server, and maybe
dispense with the firewall box as a separate entity?  You could use the
web server machine itself as its own firewall, even (hopefully I'm not
sounding too heretical?).

Just some thoughts...

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