For what it's worth since I believe anon below may not have known that the firewall's lists doesn't (or does it?) allow non-subscriber posts. C.G. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anonymous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 6:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CDR: [Crypto libraries for Visual Basic?] vs [Why not NT] > > > > FYI: There's a thread on crypto and programming at cpunks > and there's been > a thread on NT vs UNIX on Firewalls for those who like to > surf different > channels. > > http://lists.gnac.net/firewalls/ -- check the current > archives for Why not > NT > http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ -- check the current archvies for > Crypto libs + VB > > YMMV > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Al Billings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 5:35 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: CDR: Re: Crypto libraries for Visual Basic? > > > > > > Geiger wrote: > > > > > > I hate to break this to you but there are millions of > > people writing VB > > > >code under Windows. > > > > > > A million monkies typing on keyboards does not make good code. > > > > No but it might make VB issues a *practical* concern as > opposed to an > > ideological concern (as you seem to present it). > > > > > >I don't think THAT many people do ASM anymore on that > > > >platform. > > > > > > Much to the detriment of the profession. Not that ASM is > > practical for the > > > average programming task it would be nice if a programmer > > had some of idea > > > of what it was and was able to make use of it when needed > > and called for. > > > Of course with OO bloatware, cookie cutter software design, > > pandering to > > > the least common denominator, get it out the door and > > charge the end user > > > for bugfixes that should have been caught before the > > product release QA, > > > and ever increasing isolation of the programmer from the > > hardware & OS he > > > is programming for is why we are plagued with the slop that > > comes out of > > > Redmond and other like thinking software shops. > > > > Translation: Waah. Waah. It isn't like the good ol' days. > > > > That's too bad. I work in the real world and adjust > > accordingly. I work at > > a place that uses VB (along with C++) mostly. > > > > > > I think your remarks are a bit prejudicial though and not > > realistic but > > > >you can think as you will. > > > > > > Since when was prejudice a bad thing when based on fact and > > experience? > > > Simple matter of fact is crypto is hard. It is very hard. > > People who's > > > entire profession is to write crypto code & applications > > screw up and make > > > mistakes. If you had followed this list for any appreciable > > amount of time > > > you would realize this. To design and build a crypto > > application takes > > > more than a crypto lib, a few function calls and wrap it > > all in a pretty > > > GUI. Someone who has never been involved in a crypto > > project before and > > > who's only programming experience is VB is not competent > > enough to be > > > writting crypto apps > > > > In your opinion. > > > > As to my time on this list, I've been on this list off and > > on for the last > > four or so years. ;-) > > > > Al Billings > > > > -- > > Al Billings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > "All this place is holy, and there is nothing > > which is without a share of soul." -- Plotinus > > http://www.memoria.com > > > > > - [To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]
