If you're looking at http://www.ubs.com then you'll understand that DOWNTIME
means DOWN TIME.
What do you think would customers think of a bank that is just offering
services during the day? Or if there was no electricity between 02:00 AM and
05:00 AM just because the backups of the servers needed to be done (uff... how
do you make backups without electricity).
Downtime means when your systems are not available. And yes sir, we have a
24hour 7 day shop with all core systems redundand.
Cheers
Boris Pavalec [QPB]
Network / System Engineer [MCSE]
Highend Computing Systems
Switzerland - Zuerich
http://www.nt-admin.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: toughguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Donnerstag, 3. Juni 1999 15:06
To: Firewalls
Cc: toughguy
Subject: UNAUTHENTICATED: Re: Re: Why not NT
Just to clarify - sure the systems have to come down to have Service Packs
or any other items applied, but like most other IS shops this work is done
on weekends, and scheduled around times of greatest business needs. My 2
years I referred to is unscheduled downtime, of which there has been almost
none. It will be great when MS finally doesn't require so many reboots, but
proper hardware selection minimizes the required downtime.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 5:44 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Why not NT
Sorry... but this statement sounds like a joke to me...
How can you tell that it just depends on the Hardware? Why are you on a
firewall list... if NT would run stable whatever comes on good hardware?
Do you want to tell that you didn't patch the systems? Do you realize
that you were vulnerable to at least a dozen attacks? And by the way...
uptime is calculated from the LAST reboot till now... not like the
system was up 2 years (and I just rebooted it 20 times to change the IP
address, patch, and stuff around with it).
If you had the machine running for 2 years... then you're probably still
on SP1 ... you must have an angel guarding you...
Cheers
Boris Pavalec [QPB]
Network / System Engineer [MCSE]
Highend Computing Systems
Switzerland - Zuerich
http://www.nt-admin.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: toughguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 1999 23:33
To: Firewalls
Cc: toughguy
Subject: UNAUTHENTICATED: Re: Why not NT
I've been watching this for a while, and have to throw my 2 cents in.
We're
a bank in NYC, and use a combination of Solaris, NT, and other free UNIX
variants. It's been my experience that the biggest problem with NT is
inferior hardware. We've had 2 Digital (Compaq) AlphaServers up for
about 2
years now - without a single crash. The only times I've needed to
reboot
have been to change certain system settings. I've had several other
Intel
based servers up for about that long - with no problems. You have to
spend
money on good hardware if you want to run NT properly.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Why not NT
> I agree with Stewart. We had Solaris server as well as NT systems.
> We generally have NT crashing or need of rebooting ...but in case of
Solaris
> we rarely need rebooting. I rate Solaris and even HP-ux performance
better
> than NT. Early of this year we observe power problems in our office.
We
> found NT crashing many times but Solaris never.
>
> Sanjeev
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stewart Dean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 4:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Why not NT
>
>
> I have been watching this go by with some delight......but foolishly
> didn't collect it. If there's someone that did and has the 'full
story',
> would you please send it to me?
>
> We had our own fun with NT on a web server (which IS did not run,
> but was informally managed)....it would crash 1-3 times a week. The
> kiss-off came when the web server....which is the official Admissions
> window-to-the-world crashed over a weekend....then a prospective
> student couldn't get on but thought the address was wrong and so
> went poking around until they found the college newspaper web
> page (on another server, Unix, which we serve).
> Now our college is a *very* free-spirited place and makes a point of
> freedom-of-everything, never mind freedom-of-speech...and this
> prospective fresh-person poked around further and came across the
> S&M page on an old issue.
> Result: The detonation was awesome. We are assuming
> responsibility for the web server and installing Solaris on it.
> The S&M page? It stays.....freedom-of-speech.
> // "I build my cars to go, not to stop", Ettore Bugatti
> // Stewart Dean Kingston, NY
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