Well... if I put the encryption box out to the DMZ... then several problems 
might arise such as sniffing and as the firewall has nearly all ports closed 
(also 135 to 139) the remote sites wouldn't be able to talk to our domain if 
the encryption box would not come after the firewall. The IDS should log any 
inproper traffic so I think this is not much of a problem.

Do you think this is acceptable then... or would you look into a 2 ring 
firewall then?

Thanks in advance

Cheers

Boris Pavalec [QPB]
Network / System Engineer [MCSE]
Highend Computing Systems
Switzerland - Zuerich

http://www.nt-admin.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: dlang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sonntag, 20. Juni 1999 14:42
To: 'firewalls'; 'ADMIN.MISC'
Subject: Firewall??!!


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I would reverse the firewall and encryption box, unless you want to give
unlimited access between the sites (the encryption boxes will tunnel
through the firewalls)

Other then that I think you have the right idea.

David Lang

On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:43:22 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Firewall??!!
> 
> Ok guys/gals... now after all the nice hot-air discussions about NT vs 
Uniks...
> 
> ... can anybody tell me how I could protect a wireless LAN? *G*
> 
> That's serious... we're looking into buying one of those wireless devices 
which 
> will handle somewhere between 2 and 10 Mbps (best case though)... to connect 
a 
> couple of remote offices.
> 
> As far as I see I'm pretty cleartext through the air... and anybody with the 
> right equipment could sniff the hell out of my traffic...
> 
> So I guess something like this would be most sensible:
> 
> One of my sites(main master site):
> 
> [Main]   [Encryp-]   [ Fire ]   [ Wire-]
> [    ]---[ tion  ]---[      ]---[ less ]- - - T H I S - I S - A I R -  
> [Site]   [  box  ]   [ wall ]   [device] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         [ WLAN ]   [ Fire ]   [Encryp-]   [Customer]
> A I R - [      ]---[      ]---[ tion  ]---[        ]
>         [Device]   [ wall ]   [  box  ]   [  Site  ] 
> 
> 
> 
> Well... hope it doesn't wrapp!!!  ;-)
> 
> Isn't that a bit too complicated? I mean it's great to have a free 2 - 10 Mb 
> link to the customers (you pay somewhere around 14'000 sFr [1] monthly for a 
2 
> Mb link to the net) but having 3to4 boxes on every site is really not too 
cool.
> 
> Can anybody suggest any good Wireless LAN manufacturer? Any suggestions to 
the 
> scenario (yeah I know that most firewalls can encrypt traffic... this scheme 
is 
> just schmematic *G*). I had a look at Lucent... however... they didn't had 
much 
> pictures  ;-)))
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Boris Pavalec [QPB]
> Network / System Engineer [MCSE]
> Highend Computing Systems
> Switzerland - Zuerich
> 
> http://www.nt-admin.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> [1] Which is about 12'000$
> 
> 

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