> Sounds like "turtles all the way down".

It is.

> Eventually you hit bottom.  If it
> is a new service, they don't HAVE any reputation yet.

Think of it as a dot-zero release.

> And there are a lot
> of "use our new firewall - it's great!" Places out there.  So how do you
> tell if nobody knows anything about them?

You hire someone to find something about them, or wait.

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