This is not really a firewalls issue, but does
have some bearing on it. (Read on :-)

Let's speculate.

Something I've been wondering is whether NT DC's that
are configured to NOT use old-style LM password hashes
still _store_ the 8-byte hashes?
Because in that case, password crackers can still glean
lots of info from the old, bad 8-byte hash.

BUT, that's not the main point here.
What I was _really_ thinking about is situations where
you have a number of old-style Lan Manager clients
(win3.11, win95, etc..) that need to log on to your DC.

Maybe you don't want your PDC to allow old-style LM
logons for security reasons - maybe you have a HUGE lan
with lots of potential security holes, that you want to
minimize - but need to be able to give just a few W95 
clients this ability. 
So you tell the PDC not to allow old-style hashes.

Would it be possible to set up a BDC on a fairly isolated
piece of LAN (separated by a firesieve?) together with the 
Win95 machines, and tell ONLY that BDC that old-style 
hashes are allowed?

The BDC would of course have to talk to the PDC in order
to get its user database, which might constitute a 
security problem should the W95 clients be compromised, but 
we're talking about minimizing the risk here, right?

I have the distinct notion I'll have to test this in a live
scenario to find the answer, or try to make friends with
an MS developer (umm), but I'll try my chances here first.

Thanks in advance!
/Mike

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