Oh, I don't doubt in the slightest that many have gone to jail. I just
doubt that many have gone to TRIAL. Please note that the results of a
guilty plea are that you go to jail and that may be in a plea bargain.
I hope that your basic tutorial notes that. Otherwise it is sorely amiss.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carric Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:03 PM
To: Meritt, Jim
Cc: 'Derek Martin'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Kevin fits the mold (was RE: trial & charges
I have read papers by two hackers that have been to jail. One was Agent
Steal, and I have the other paper in some obscure corner on one of myh
PC's. He got over 4 years. I'd be happy to send the paper to anyone that
is interested. IT is a basic tutorial on what to do if you get busted.
=)
Carric Dooley
COM2:Interactive Media
http://www.com2usa.com
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
> Bet he already knows...
>
> Full article at
> http://www.thestandard.net/articles/display/0,1449,3907,00.html
>
> Feds on Reported Mitnick
> Deal: No Comment
>
> By Elinor Mills
>
> An assistant U.S. attorney refused to
> comment Friday on reports that Kevin
> Mitnick has agreed to plead guilty to
> computer hacking charges as part of a plea
> bargain.
>
> The prosecutor, David Schindler, confirmed
> that Mitnick's attorney filed a document
> under seal this week but wouldn't comment
> on its contents. Schindler said no court
> hearing had been scheduled "as of now."
>
> An Associated Press report said Mitnick's
> attorney, Donald Randolph, confirmed the
> plea bargain. Randolph did not return calls
> to his office Thursday and Friday."
>
> Like I said, plea bargain, no trial. And since HE said he did something
> wrong...
> I do agree on the unfair treatment, but that was neither the question nor
> the issue at hand.
>
> I can only think of ONE "hacker" that went to trial, and he was convicted
by
> a jury.
>
> Jim Meritt, CISSP
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:05 AM
> To: Meritt, Jim
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: trial & charges
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
>
> > How many have actually made it to trial? What were the charges? I
> > understand that in almost every case it is hard to "shut up" the
> > braggard^h^h^h^H^h^h^h^h hacker and a plea bargain is made resulting in
NO
> > trial.
>
> Tell that to kevin Mitnick. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong,
> but depending on who you believe the charges may have been largely trumped
> up and he certainly has been treated unfairly, whatever the case.
>
>
> Derek D. Martin | UNIX System Administrator
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