Ouch!

We have been trying to get several Nokia IP440's to do asymmetrical load
balancing using Nokia's OSPF implementation  It turns out that when these
boxes are running on fast Ethernet they do not share state information
quickly enough so that when the ICMP reply packets come back, a different
route then the request packets went out (asymmetrical), the firewall1
software drops packets because it has no state info about this flow.

There is no policy rule for dropping the packet, implicit or otherwise.
There is no log message recording the dropped packet, nor any entry in the
messages log about the action.

When we de-install the policy everything works fine but with the FW policy
installed, state problems.

We have been working on this for weeks and the Nokia engineers just
confirmed our findings this morning here's what they wrote.

>Because XXXXX is connected to both XXXXXX by Fast Ethernet, the turnaround
>time is very low, probably less than 10-20 ms.  In this situation, like
>others Nokia has observed previously, there is not enough time for the
>state table information to propagate across the sync link and make it into
>the peer's state table before the reply arrives at the peer.  In this case,
>XXXXX echo reply arrives at XXXXXXX before the security information
>has arrived from XXXX.  There's no entry in the state table of Nokia A, so the
>reply is dropped.

An interesting undocumented "feature" that they have observed previously.

Does anyone here have any similar experiences with this equipment?

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Gary Ramah
Advanced Network Technology and Applications
NASA Ames Research Center
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