> to discuss the difference between stateful inspection and application
layer
> gateway, I didn't want to go to much into the details. Yes for certain
> protocols like http, ftp, smtp FW-1 is able to inspect the packet through
> layer 7.

...and for any other protocol, should it be important enough to learn the
INSPECT language and write your own protocol engine.


> But this is not the behavior for general services. Because otherwise it
> would be very astonishing why FW-1 is so much faster than Raptor Eagle
> (application layer gateway).

Not astonishing at all, IMO...  Considering that the FW-1 inspect engine
runs in Ring 0 and Raptor is running out in Ring 3, the speed difference
doesn't surprise me at all.


> For the majority of protocols I think it is a smart packet filter. Further
> I don't think FW-1 stops a connection if you start a telnet session on
port
> 80 if you don't use the security server. In my opinion this was the
> original question.

Okay, I must have missed this.  Why is somebody telnetting to port 80?  Just
to verify a response from a web server?  Why should it be blocked?  I didn't
catch this at all...and I suppose it doesn't matter much, as I don't really
want to start any religious wars between stateful inspection and application
gateways.

I just couldn't help commenting, because it seems a lot of people think FW-1
doesn't inspect beyond layer 3, since its engine sits below that layer...and
some believe it to be nothing more than a traditional packet filter that
happens to keep track of open connections.


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