Hi,

I was previously of the view "Great! IPsec in Win2K - now we won't
have to install separate clients in all PCs!", but I'm having
doubts.

(Note: This is not MS-bashing. I'm just a concerned netizen)

Relevant excerpts from 
http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/guide/server/solutions/vpn.asp

"Integrating L2TP with IPSec encryption provides a very secure, end-to-end,
standards-based solution for remote networking clients."

Ehm. Is this just me, or are they glossing over the fact that L2TP is
not very widely deployed? Okay, it _is_ "standards-based", but we're
still talking widely deployed here.

"This adherence to Internet standards allows greater interoperability 
across standards-compliant systems, providing user authenticity, privacy, 
and data integrity."

Ehm.. User authentication is not a part if IPsec yet, if my memory
serves me? (There IS a draft, but that's nowhere near final, right?) 
Is this L2TP magic again?

So, to the core of the question:

Does anyone know if it's possible to run Win2K in IPsec-only mode, 
so that Win2K clients can connect via "normal" IPsec gateways?

and,

If not, doesn't that suck big time? =P 

Hmm, no, don't answer the last one if the answer is "yes". Rather,
if IPsec-only is impossible and you feel that it's great,
I'd really rather know WHY it's great?

TIA

/Mike

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