I was under the assumption that "Acceptable Use" policies were a given. If you do not 
have one, you should probably start there, and worry about filters/firewalls/software 
etc etc later.

Oh, and Mark: If you post to the list YOU DON'T NEED TO COPY THE MESSAGE TO EVERYONE..

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Marc Renner - Director         http://ci.marysville.wa.us
Network Operations Dept.    Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
City of Marysville, Wa.          (360) 651-5000
ISSA Member # 10281         http://www.issa.org
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>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/15/00 08:44PM >>>
Just refer to a series of articles published in the Boston Herald last 
spring on where Employees of the Commonwealth were spending their time on 
the Internet. Over half of them were visiting pornographic sites, except 
after a little investigation it turned some of the visits from employees 
worked for the State Police and Social Service investigating possible 
abuse of children.  So therefore, the URL blocking software must be able 
to be customized to account for legitimate use of viewing pornographic 
sites.

The problem is not hard to solve, URL software developers just have to 
develop the software so that use can be customized for certain sites.

If you look under the Gambling category, Lottery is associated with it. 
Well again, this a boo-boo, what if the organization you worked for was 
the State Lottery commission and you wanted people to be able to web to 
their lottery page to check the daily lotto or Tri-State lotto.  Imagine 
if the URL software was not customizable and automatically blocked people 
from visiting the site and not finding out they just became a millioniare. 
 

This scenario also happenned..

/mark




"mouss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
03/15/00 07:01 PM

 
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        Subject:        RE: how to prevent access to adult sites? -reply


Mark,

If one has valid reasons (such as the investigations you cited) to search
for
sex-criminals or so, then software may help. but te software is used to
search not to block.
you need to have an eye until you find what you're looking for.

yes, you may be concerned by the "image" of the company if things get 
known.
there may be other reasons.
however, I still believe that the problem is too hard to solve without
introducing other problems.
That's certainly my opinion, but I prefer to work in a company where
employees are tusted and hold responsible,
assume that they are good at the (minimal?) risk of being deceived, than
working in a "heavy atmosphere".





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 2:24 AM
> To: mouss
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: RE: how to prevent access to adult sites? -reply
>
>
> This a fine how do you do, especially when one could possibly work for 
an
> organization that has to investigate pornographic, child pornography
> stuff.  Such organizations as local law enforcement need to be able to
> view these as a necessity to possible investigate some disturbed people
> out there.  So establishing an acceptable use policy around an
> organization that law enforcement reports to them will be very
> troublesome.
>
> Personally, I don't really care where people go, except when all of a
> sudden some reporter who hates the local government does a search and
> basically prints the results in the state paper. Well, guess what
> you have
> the local governor demanding that the security group do something like
> yesterday about fixing a situation that is almost impossible to fix.
>
> So technically, you can solve very easily by designing software 
licensing
> around the organization and then cater the lists around the permissions
> they setup. If law enforcement they get X key, if everyone else they Y
> key, otherwise one is out of luck
>
> /mark
>



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