I run three firewalls and an HTML filter:
     
     1 CONSEAL PERSONAL FW
     2 BLACKICE DEFENDER
     3 ZONEALARM FW
     4 PROXOMITRON
     
     McAfee recently acquired Signal9 the developer and marketing company 
     for Conseal Personal FW (packet filtering) and Conseal Private Desktop 
     (application filtering or stateful inspection.  Conseal FW is 
     preconfigured with a ruleset that blocks all ports except those that 
     are needed for browsing.  It also blocks Netbios and Netbeui (ports 
     135-139) by default.  Many rulesets are available for special 
     configurations, such as DSL, cable modem, Napster, ICQ, and other 
     junk.  Conseal FW logs incoming and outgoing connections, blocks 
     incoming connections that are not permitted, and will optionally allow 
     the user to chose to block or allow an incoming connection, 
     permanently or temporarily.  Rule building is GUI control and for 
     anyone with some experience in protocols, ports, and services, rules 
     are easy to create, modify, test, or delete.  Rules are processed in 
     priority order, so you can make things hairy, just like any packet 
     filtering firewall with prioritized rules.
     
     McAfee is already offering Conseal Personal Desktop without mentioning 
     Conseal Personal FW on their site.  This has caused general 
     frustration and aggravation amongst the CFW users, plus numerous 
     negative statements about McAfee products and support.
     
     BlackIce Defender provides no rule control.  Instead it monitors ports 
     and services and categorizes them.  You chose the level of 
     port/service control (from Paranoid to Don't care).  BlackIce 
     identifies and filters some Trojans and viruses, but is not a 
     replacement for a good antiviral program.
     
     ZoneAlarm was originally an outgoing connection filter, but it is now 
     a full-fledged firewall for both incoming and outgoing connections and 
     is application based (stateful inspection).  You can establish trusted 
     services or let ZoneAlarm ask you everytime.  It definitely works to 
     block incoming or outgoing connections that are not allowed.  The 
     current release also logs alerts.
     
     Proxomitron is an HTML proxy filter with prebuilt rules.  You can add 
     new ones if you understand HTML and replace any incoming HTML element 
     or subelement with a new element or value or comment.  It's primary 
     purpose is to eliminate trash, but it is very effective in eliminating 
     any DoubleClick--in some cases disabling some webpages completely.  
     There is a logging feature that displays all the HTML action, server 
     names, URLs contacted, and HTML editing performed.  You can override 
     (bypass) the Proxomitron filtering while still allowing it to be the 
     local proxy.  It works with remote proxies as well.
     
     They will all work together in the same system without conflict.  
     Sometimes people are critical and arrogant about anyone who uses 
     multiple firewalls in the same system.  If there isn't any performance 
     hit, the combination is effective and each works well to make the user 
     fully aware of the events of the active programs and incoming 
     connections.  Port scans will sometimes go through Conseal, but they 
     are stopped dead by BlackIce.  ZoneAlarm won't allow an outgoing 
     connection from your system (like one of the ad trojans, RealAudio 
     phone-home, SubSeven or BackOrifice) without your permission--you're 
     really well informed by it.
     
     ZoneAlarm and Proxomitron are both free for personal use.
     
     Conseal is priced according to operating system.
     
     BlackIce is a single price for all operating systems.
     
     
     
     
     
     


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Subject: Re: ZoneAlarm
Author:  rj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at Internet
Date:    04/06/2000 10:49 PM


Why do you run two firewalls, I am assuming that BlackIce is a firewall? 
Is it that no firewall is bullet proof and one should catch the one(s) 
the other missed?
     
     
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> I too have had excellent results with ZoneAlarm. I am running it on a 
> personal system running Windows 98 and have been using it for almost three 
> months now with no problems. I also use Blackice and it works well with 
> ZoneAlarm. Blackice only checks inbound while ZoneAlarm checks both inbound 
> and outbound.
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