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SSH to a box which acts as a gateway, but users do not have direct access
to the programs on it does satisfy the concersns i have about it. (users
are not going to be able to override the SSH settings.)

If I really need encrypted communications I setup a VPN (possibly even
using SSH _to_ the firewall, just not _through_ the firewall)

David Lang


 On Fri, 21 Apr
2000, Dave Smart/DEF/CSC wrote:

> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:25:24 -0400
> From: Dave Smart/DEF/CSC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ssh defeats the firewall
> 
> To those who rant "never" - I suggest that the requirements for any 
> firewall, and 
> whether to allow any protocol including ssh depends on your particular 
> circumstances, 
> access requirements, data requirements, and degree of trust. 
> 
> Let me pose a situation: 
> A small business office, or a small satellite office which requires access 
> to the internet, 
> limited remote user access from the Internet, and of course protection from 
> unwanted 
> intrusion from the Internet.  Now add in your requrement for remote 
> administration (many miles away). 
> How else do you implement the situation? Other VPN software? Travel? More 
> staff? 
> Long distance phone/authenticated modems? More $$? 
> SSH is a very useful tool. 
> 
> Many also brought up the point that firewalls don't protect against tunnels 
> on SSH or any port/protocol. 
> For bigger corporate intranet gateways let me ask: Would it mitigate this 
> risk (or be possible or practical) 
> to set up SSH proxy service at the Internet gateway so that remote users 
> use SSH across the 
> Internet to a gateway host to authenticate then traverse the DMZ and 
> firewall unencrypted so 
> that whatever rules, application proxies, and  auditing are implemented are 
> performed in full force? 
> I have supported similar configurations for Telnet and FTP proxy servers. 
> Would this approach expose the SSH key files on the more vulnerable gateway 
> host? 
> 
> --Dave 
> 
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