Oh really?  When is the last time you looked?

Turn on ipfilter and what else?

What is more secure out of the box?

acs



On 23-Apr-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry OpenBSD is not secure by default, look again.. :(
> 
> /m
> 
> 
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> "Aaron C. Springer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 04/22/00 07:50 AM
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>         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Kaiser 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> firewall list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron DuFresne 
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>         Subject:        Re: Which would you choose? -reply
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> That is almost not needed if you choose OpenBSD... secure by default..
> 
> and soon maybe FreeBSD too...
> 
> 
> acs
> 
> On 22-Apr-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Each operating system can be a serious risk if one decides to use it as 
> a
>> perimeter device.  There is always something new to tune, harden, 
> disable,
>> enhance on any given operating system.  Prior to installing a security
>> application on top of the residing operating system.  Ask someone else
>> within your group to cross-check your work..
>>
>> Disable everything, then only turn on what you may need.. :)
>>
>> /m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron DuFresne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 04/22/00 11:00 AM
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>>         To:     Jochen Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>         cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> firewall
>> list
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>         Subject:        Re: Which would you choose?
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>>
>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Jochen Kaiser wrote:
>>
>>> oh my god. this will become a monsterthread :)
>>
>> that it will...
>>
>>         [SNIP]
>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Is Linux and ipchains/squid/TIS FWTK/etc a security risk?
>>>
>>> A linux out of the box always is. If you spend time and patch and check
>>> configurations and use it as a standalone computer for firewalling and
>>> squid with no other user shell access, it may be usable.
>>>
>>
>> As is solars, sgi, hp, you name em, all but perhaps openbsd and even a 
> few
>> particular distributions of linux designed to be secure 'out of the 
> box'.
>>
>> The key point here is knowing yer OS and knowing in particular -=how to
>> lock it down=-  It's been said here many times over, if you know an OS
>> better then others, use that, even if yer talking linux, which can be 
> well
>> suited to certain situations.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ron DuFresne
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
>> eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
>> business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
>>         ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***
>>
>> OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.
>>
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