I am using this, and have found it to be better than other similar personal
firewall products (like Conseal or ZoneAlarm - apart from the fact that
ZoneAlarm is free).  It seems to be very stable, and has a nice summary screen
that shows (in real time) rules being matched for blocking / passing traffic,
as well as general net and specific HTTP throughput.

It's main downside is the fact that has entered the modern age of 'fatware',
including a LiveUpdate, 'privacy protection' (site-specific cookie blocker, and
referer tag remover), parental control, and an ad blocker.  I have to admit
though that all the other packaged features work (the ad blocker is even kind
of useful).

Hope that helps,

Geoff

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From: Michael E. Cummins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jason LaFlair; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ZoneAlarm vs BlackICE Defender




I have always enjoyed using @Guard, which has since licensed itself to
Symantec.  Symantec has come out with a product called Norton Internet
Security, which pairs a modified @Guard with its popular AV software.
(Rendering it useless in an NT environ, which the old @guard runs happily
in)

My question is this:

Has anyone tried the Norton Product?  I am curious to see how it compares
with the old @guard.

Michael



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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 8:28 AM
To: Jason LaFlair
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Subject: Re: ZoneAlarm vs BlackICE Defender


OK..

>From my observations, BlackICE Defender has some many undocumented
features especially when it comes to fine tuning the .ini files, that it
can easily be tuned to monitor applications as well as potential people
attempting to launch kiddie scripts against your personal machine.  When I
played with Zone Alarm on a test machine, it generated lots of false
positives until I was able to figure out how to tune it properly, but it
took a while.  I also agree if you have lots of apps that need to connect
to the Internet, Zone Alarm will drive someone bonkers.. ;)

/m




"Jason LaFlair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05/12/00 05:21 AM


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I've tried both on my home computers... and they both work ok for
security.....  from what I see between the 2 is the configuration.  I
REALLY
liked zone alarm because of it's simplicity... but took longer to
configure
because every time an application wants to go to the internet zone alarm
asks you if it can.... so if you have MANY internet apps this may take
time.... however.. it does also allow you to see those apps that trying to
'sneak' access.

Hope this helps?

Jason.
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Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: ZoneAlarm vs BlackICE Defender


> OK.
>
> Has anybody completed a product analysis of either product, and if so,
> could they provide me with some feedback regarding which product is
better
> from a security perspective.
>
> /thank you
>
> /mark
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