On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 01:12:30PM +0800, Ronneil Camara wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Network Operations [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 5:31 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: IP Spoofing
> > 
> > 
> > Why do you even want the "attackers" address? You shouldn't 
> > allow ICMP traffic in through your firewall in the first place.
> > 
> > If your network design is broken, don't blame people for 
> > taking advantage of you. Thank them for pointing out your 
> > weaknesses, fix your gear, and be done with it.


> Will http traffic still flow even if we block icmp traffic at the firewall?

        Yes...

> Does http also use tcp?

        Also?  Http is a tcp protocol, so I guess so.  I don't know of
anything else it uses.

> Are there any disadvantage when I block icmp traffic on my
> public/external interface?

        Big time...  If you block all ICMP you will break a thing called
MTU discovery which can hose up things seemingly at random.  I tracked
several cases of people unable to browse my web server due to a hop which
failed to support MTU discovery and then something else broke when the
performance and fragmentation went in the dumper.

> How about advantage when we block icmp traffic on
> the public/external interface?

        Well...  Blocking ICMP ECHO and ICMP ECHO_REPLY cuts out a major
communication channel for DDoS zombies.  Does that count?  That's a
REALLY GOOD THING.  :-)

> Thanks in advance. :-)

        To do things right, you really want ICMP UNREACHABLE WOULD_FRAGMENT
to pass through in order to make MTU discovery work.  Just about anything
else ICMP is a win to pitch in the dumper.

> Ron

        Mike
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