On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 10:40:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let's get back on topic here.. I tried to prevent this thread from going 
> down the path of the hiring process. Regardless of the fact, it is 
> consultant's market out there.  For some of us, it is what we bring to the 
> table and how an organization can maximize their ROI on that person.  But 
> that is other discussion on drive, philosophy and such, that I don't want 
> to go into.
> 
> I was a NOC monkey and sys admin for a long time, and I really enjoyed the 
> fast pace thrill of ripping a Telco provider apart or answering 15 lines at 
> once, resetting 50 or so routers at once after a OC-3 routing flap.  Hey, 
> but that was a long time ago.
> 
> Online Security Service are promoting the fact, that business can't hire 
> the staff, or retain them long enough to ensure that all the security 
> vulnerabilities are being addressed.  So therefore, aren't the online 
> security services having the same problem hiring qualified help??
> 
> /mark
> 

Yes, I think they definitely are. I've seen several companies where
they're having difficulty hiring and keeping top people.  There are too
few to go around, so you end up with a lot of newbies who you can hire
cheaply and (hopefully) train.  It seems like a lot of effort is going
into making the automated systems smart enough that you can have a bunch
of average-grade NOC monkeys and a small staff of good people to handle
escalations when necessary. Maybe that's the way it needs to go, since
things are just getting faster, and people just can't keep up with most
of it in real-time anymore.

-gabe

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