>From: mouss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>>everytime I show a Solaris "snoop" session (packet sniffer) 
>and have someone
>>telnet, they, too, cannot believe their eyes how easy it is to grab
>>passwords off the wire...
>>Jeff
>
>
>This is exagerated though.
>normally, you need root access to sniff packets, well, at least on 
>respectable OSes.

True, and for Internet connectivity this is somewhat tougher, but is not
exagerated on the internal, local LAN.

So many times I have seen unencrypted passwords (including root) on my local
lan, and we all know how easy it is to get a *nix box on the lan with root.
Switched networks help this problem by isolating traffic, but they are not
100% completely safe either.

>in the discussed case, unless someone manages to run a packet 
>sniffer on 
>one of the firewalls
>or on the webserver, there is no way to sniff the passwords.
Unless you sniff it the _other_ end of the connection (i.e. the local lan
side)

<caveat: I didn't keep up on the discussed caseas mentioned, I thought it
was about Ronneil seeing plaintext passwords on his LAN, sorry if i went too
far off topic.>

Jeff
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