Napster uses those ports by default, but can use any port.

Greg S.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Matthew Reams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Friday, February 09, 2001 11:07 AM
                To:     'Daniel Hammer'; Michael T. Babcock
                Cc:     Ryan, Kennedy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Subject:        RE: napster

                Hi,

                Just to add...

                I've seen on the Cisco PIX that it seems Napster traffic
likes to hit port
                8888 on the outbound, no matter what port I set on the
Napster client.
                However, the article below

                http://www.securityportal.com/closet/closet20000419.html

                states that Napster uses 4444,5555,6666,6699, and 7777 as
well.  I just set
                the outbound to 

                deny tcp any any eq <1 of the 6 ports>

                and do this for all 6 ports.  I figure, unless the Napster
developers change
                the code, this will block current and future Napster
servers.  If some legit
                application in the future uses those ports, I guess I'll
have to be more
                specific on what outbound traffic will be allowed on those
ports.

                Hope this helps.

                --Matt

                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: Daniel Hammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:22 AM
                > To: Michael T. Babcock
                > Cc: Ryan, Kennedy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > Subject: Re: napster
                > 
                > 
                > BS"D
                > 
                > Hi,
                > 
                > Michael wrote the magic words:
                > > Most Napster clones (use Napster servers, not Napster 
                > client) allow the user
                > > to pick other servers not run by Napster.  There are 
                > directories of such
                > > servers online that are easily accessible.  File
transfers 
                > do not happen
                > > between users and Napster's servers, but between users 
                > themselves so blocking
                > > Napster's C class does little in the long run.
                > 
                > absolutely right, I agree. The "normal way" is to query
via 
                > port 8888 a napster-bot
                > cluster and you get the IP's of available napster servers;

                > usually 16 servers each block.
                > For example, you get  this list of servers:
                > 64.124.41.159:8888
                > 64.124.41.160:8888
                > 64.124.41.161:8888
                > 64.124.41.162:8888
                > 64.124.41.167:8888
                > 64.124.41.168:8888
                > 64.124.41.204:8888
                > 64.124.41.239:8888
                > --- cut ---
                > 208.184.216.15:8888
                > 208.184.216.16:8888
                > 208.184.216.18:8888
                > 208.184.216.23:8888
                > 208.184.216.24:8888
                > 208.184.216.44:8888
                > 208.184.216.47:8888
                > 208.184.216.60:8888
                > 208.184.216.61:8888
                > --- cut ---
                > These servers do not transfer the mp3-files they give you
an 
                > IP of someone who has
                > the type of mp3 you've requested and a port the donator 
                > served for a contact in order to
                > transfer files. Your client then does contact the donators

                > machine via its IP and the
                > port he saved for you. These ports are dynamic and not
fixed 
                > so that there is no standard
                > port for all these transfers.
                > IMHO the best way to block napster is therefore to block
the 
                > queries to the napster 
                > bot servers so that no "deal" between 2 clients could be
established.
                > 
                > > "Ryan, Kennedy" wrote:
                > > 
                > > > We block their class c network address of 61.124.41.0
and 
                > effectively shut
                > > > down mp3 downloads from Napster..
                > 
                > Best,
                > 
                > 
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